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tsofian 08-07-2017 09:42 AM

MP rejects, the Dirty Dozens
 
What does the Project do if someone gets through all the training, is initiated into the secrets of the Project and then goes nuts. I'd expect this at Prime Base more than anywhere else, because there is a lot longer to think about things (like a log 2 kill of all of the Human Race).

Is there a bolt hole full of people that couldn't be an effective part of the Project but knew too much to be let back into the World?

rcaf_777 08-09-2017 12:00 PM

Why waste the resources to freeze them? Batman invented Bat Amnesia Spray back in the 1960's surely they project could have made something similar. While they at it why not invent

Batsleep Gas (A form of sleeping gas)
Bat-Wake Gas (Wakes people up)
Brainwave Bat-analyzer
Electronic Translator (Translate foreign writing and it displays English text on screen)
Wireless Bat-transmitter (for emergencies only, it receives morse code)
Recollection Cycle Bat-restorer (restores lost memory)
Radioactive Bat-pellets
Giant hydraulic bat-press (used to make bat-diamonds)
Bat Wax Solvent (dissolves any type of wax)
Bat-antidote Powder (used to recover from any form of poison)
Shark repellent bat-spray

mmartin798 08-09-2017 12:35 PM

The Frozen Watch:

Not good enough to make a team, just crazy enough to survive.

Might make a good slogan.

ArmySGT. 08-09-2017 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmartin798 (Post 75109)
The Frozen Watch:

Not good enough to make a team, just crazy enough to survive.

Might make a good slogan.


Frozen Watch.

When you care to send the very second best. :)

cosmicfish 08-10-2017 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by ArmySGT. (Post 75111)
Frozen Watch.

When you care to send the very second best. :)

I always thought of the Frozen Watch as simply being the result of recruiting past the time when all the teams were really finalized. Regardless, I could see having some "break glass in case of emergency" teams that were behind the cause but too unstable to trust to normal operations, as well as some kind of Morrow Prison where "bad people" who knew about the Project could be kept.

ArmySGT. 08-10-2017 08:15 PM

My opinion of the Frozen Wath.

They are the top 1% of a given class. The very talented but, generalists of their Branch.

Take Science. Someone who is a BS is a field like Biology or Botany and yet excelled at the weapons, field craft, and driving MPVs. One, who gets along well with groups and doesn't need a rigid team structure or much direct supervision.

Say a former National Park Service field biologist.

RandyT0001 08-10-2017 10:30 PM

MP Rejects were frozen is special locations. They were to be manually revived (no radio revival) several years after MP had started the rebuilding process. After the fall of PB, one facility was found by survivors a couple of decades later. Unfortunately, the facility housed religious fanatics that transformed into the Frozen Chosen.

cosmicfish 08-11-2017 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by ArmySGT. (Post 75130)
My opinion of the Frozen Wath.

They are the top 1% of a given class. The very talented but, generalists of their Branch.

If they are that good, I don't want them sitting in a bunker waiting for someone to need them, the place for top-tier generalists is on the front lines. Why do I need to wait for my lesser guys to die before I roll out my best?

mmartin798 08-11-2017 09:35 AM

I agree the brightest and best should be on the front line, but not always. My original tongue in cheek response did hold some truth for my view of Frozen Watch. They are good and competent, just not a good choice for the first wave.

An archtype for this is Dr. Nicholas Rush from Stargate Universe. Brilliant man, incredibly resourceful, but not exactly a team player or consensus builder. There is a use in the Project for such a man, but I don't want survivors assuming he is typical of what we bring to the table. So we keep him in reserve to bring out later or if we start to run out of options through attrition.

cosmicfish 08-11-2017 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by mmartin798 (Post 75136)
I agree the brightest and best should be on the front line, but not always. My original tongue in cheek response did hold some truth for my view of Frozen Watch. They are good and competent, just not a good choice for the first wave.

They should be good and competent, but if they are exceptional in any way then every effort should be made to make their exceptional-ness available for use from day 1. Perhaps that is on a field team, perhaps they are in a facility somewhere on call, but if they are exceptional then you cannot afford to stick them in a hole.

Project_Sardonicus 08-12-2017 04:53 AM

if one was to look at how the real world works, the chances are the project would just lower it's standards and find somewhere hopefully not to dangerous to stick them.

Every sizeable military especially those with drafts has special forces, and special people forces who mostly keep bases clean and dig holes.

Of course the cost of freeze tubes etc would preclude investing too much in the truly hopeless. Perhaps the project buys an abandoned island and sticks its truly hopeless types there, with the sincere plan to go pick them up and find some use for them after the end of the world?

But as it is the team may well find some of it's fellow project members are a little sub par.

ArmySGT. 08-12-2017 06:47 PM

I place these top 1% percenters into Frozen Watch solely due to the necessity of highly qualified replacements to team members killed or maimed. They need to be able to slot right in and adapt quickly. Additionally, Frozen Watch are to be a pool of specialists, in suspension, that a MARS group or Recon group might call up if faced with a technical emergency.

YMMV

rcaf_777 08-14-2017 11:12 AM

what about indivdual team replacements?, guys that were good but no team assignment left or training as a back up to a key position


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