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Old 07-11-2017, 02:20 PM
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SF soldiers die just like anyone else. They have had some notable successes, but have also had some failures. A SEAL team got hammered during Just Cause in Panama https://www.navysealmuseum.org/about...eals-in-panama.

"The platoons continued with all possible speed to reach the PDF hangars on the northwestern side of the runway. At that point the SEALs had determined that General Noriega’s jet had been moved into one of the hangars. The two squads took up position the within 100 feet of the hangar, when they received several long bursts of fire.

In the initial volley, eight of the nine SEALs were wounded. House guards across the airfield also began to fire upon their position; putting them in a deadly cross-fire. Several SEALs were now dead, and those that weren’t were having a hard time dealing with wounds and getting out of their heavy man-packed equipment."

In the Post War the SE have probably figured out a couple of things

A) There will likely never be a National Command Authority ever again.

B) Each trooper is now an irreplaceable resource.

C) Tangling with the Morrow Project will likely result in SE casualties, even if they do wipe out the party the cost might well be very expensive.

D) The MP may offer the best chance of rebuilding the USA

Also I think MARS teams have a pretty high percentage of ex special operation soldiers. In addition the training you mention below would not be that different from what MARS teams get, at least in my project (ymmv). Every MP team member is a unique resource and MARS teams are not only that, but are designated to protect the rest of the resources of the project. This means, to me, that the Project would spare little expense at recruiting, training and equipping MARS teams to the highest possible standard.

Do I think an SF team could be some serious hurt onto non MARS MP? Absolutely. Do I think an SF team that just woke up and had all its ammo and equipment would have an edge on a similar Morrow Team? Yep, but not a walkover level of superiority. If the level of supply was tilted one way or another that would tilt the equation considerably. Yes I know the SoF soldiers are supposed to be able to destroy an armored division, naked and armed only with a pine cone, but if they cool toys didn't help things they wouldn't issue them.

Like I said, I was a working class grunt. As such I might be a little slanted in my opinion.

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Originally Posted by ArmySGT. View Post
What?

The little upper 0.01 percent of the total Army in selection just for the opportunity to be considered.

1)Must be E4 (P) Specialist promotable, that is passed the promotion board at their regular Army unit prior to application. Additionally it is preferred that the Soldier has already passed Airborne school.

2) Pass the SF physial. This is more than just the Airborne physical.

3) Pass the swim test (100 meters in Uniform, boots, LBE, Kevlar, with rubber duck.

4) Have your application chosen by SF Branch.

5) Be invited to attend Special Forces Assessment / Selection course at the JFK Special Warfare school, Ft Bragg, NC.

6) Pass the SFAS by peer and instructor review. This is grueling on its own and spits out more than half of want to be applicants.

7)Pass selection, be released by your regular Army MOS for reclassification to SF branch.

8) Attend the multi week Speial Forces Qualification Course at Ft.Bragg and get a pass on the final FTX (Robin Sage).

9)Got to MOS school, Weapons, Medical, Commo, Intel. This is two years to four years depending on MOS.

10) fast track through Sniper, Jumpmaster, Pathfinder, Air Assault, Ranger, Sapper, and Basic Noncommissioned Officer Course. Attend Advanced Noncommisioned Officer is E6 or above. Attend Air Force and Marine corps schools like small boats or Loadmaster.

Officers to Captains course.

11) In between Regular Army schools attend civilian relatable schools like mountaineering, emergency medical technician, telephone lineman, electrician, veterinary technician.

More than $1,000, 000 in training is possible before being assigned to a ODA.

I don't know what your experience with SF is..... But, if my players tried to do battle with SF (such as Ruins of Chicago) this would be a total party kill and time to roll up some new characters.

A SF weapons Sergeant.. Probably the youngest and most junior is probably formerly Infantry or Engineer (Sapper) with six years in before SFQ.

The Army and SF branch will have invested more in this mere E5 (P) than the average Infantry Captain and will expect far, far more.

To act as a Leader, Trainer, and Mentor to local forces in their own language, their own culture, and to live among them. Then to take them into battle as their leader or to bolster the indigenous leadership. AT the bleeding edge of supply or to lack ordinary supply at all.

This isn't even Delta Force or Seal Team Six which only select the best of again volunteers from within their own teams. Another 0.01% of already 0.01%.
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