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Old 10-13-2017, 01:20 PM
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There is no way that Mexico would have taken Soviet equipment before the war started with the US - that would have led to the US, who was at war with the Soviets, being much better prepared for war with Mexico, even most likely to the point of a pre-emptive strike against Mexico.
Unless Mexico was getting weapons that would be a real threat to U.S. forces such as jet fighters, ballistic missiles and long ranged air defence missiles, the Americans would not be that concerned about Mexico buying a few Soviet tanks and artillery. Many other countries bought weapons from the Soviets and they were not aligned with the Soviet Union. Also the Americans could only stop Mexico from buying American or NATO weapons.

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After Mexico invades the US thats one thing - but beforehand wouldnt have happened

Besides if you look at their army if they had gotten more equipment from anyone it would have been France - most of their APC's were French for instance as were their armored cars - and the Mexican logistics system was bad enough as is to incorporate material from another country's design practices and spare parts as well

Plus keep in mind that Mexico wasnt planning for war with the US - the war was very much a come as you are war - if you look at the Challenge Magazine article on the Mexican invasion you can tell that it was close to impromptu - i.e. lots of reinforcing units werent even in position yet when the invasion happened
It would be a lot easier getting Soviet weapons before the Twilight War starts. Afterwards it would be very hard to get Soviet weapons to Mexico. The fact that the Soviet Division Cuba was even deployed to Mexico is one of the mysteries of T2K.

Mexican forces at this time used a mixture of American and French equipment, much of it older. But City of Angels has the Mexican occupation force equipped in its entirety with Soviet armoured vehicles. This fact stands out like a sore thumb, but here we have it. How did they get it? Who knows, but there is obviously not an awful lot of it. Maybe Division Cuba transferred some of their vehicles to the Mexicans to stiffen them up on the front line in Southern California.

I don't know what the Mexicans were planning before the war, maybe it was an opportunistic land grab. But it clearly hasn't worked out to well for them even in canon T2K. All of their forces are over extended, and many units have split into rival factions or just fallen apart and turned to marauding.

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plus by mid 1998 most of the US heavy armor is either in Europe, Iran or Korea - what they faced was mostly light infantry and security units - which is why they got as far as they did - basically Soviet Division Cuba stopped the 49th and saved their position in Texas and the 40th only had a grab bag of armor and that was enough to stop them in CA - its why I said that the chances of them holding onto the American Southwest, or at least as much as 2300AD said they did is nil

as in nada, zilch, zero

however holding onto a smaller area might be possible - but there is no way the US just sits there and lets them keep half of CA, over half of AZ and NM and all of Texas - sorry but that is completo sin sentido - i.e. complete nonsense - and the fact the the US controls the water is the big factor - I have a feeling the original authors never took the time to research that fact
I don't think all of the U.S. armoured forces were deployed overseas, although there probably wasn't much in the southwest when the Mexicans crossed the border. I am not disagreeing with you over the facts of the Mexican invasion of the American southwest. I think the Mexicans could have crossed over and overran some disorientated and badly prepared lighter U.S. forces in the early stages of the invasion. But I would not expect then to hold U.S. territory for too long afterwards.
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