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Originally Posted by RN7
Has anybody ever heard of this. I came across it recently and was actually stunned.
1) The Constitiution for the United States of America is written (notice I say for not of).
2) A war of independance begins.
3) The British Monarch finances both sides (directly and indirectly through France).
4) America wins the war and both sides sign the Treaty of Paris 1783
5) Article number 4 means America agrees to pay all debts owed to the British Crown - http://en.wikipedia...._of_Paris_(1783)
6) America is bankrupt forcing it to seek finance which it gets through a British bank (it later became the Rothschild Group).
7) Finance is only granted on the condition the USA as a country is abolished and replaced with a corporation of the same name. The reason being is Britain wants legal ownership of American land as security incase it cant meet its debt repayments.
8) The IRS is created to collect the taxes which are used for the debt repayments. The IRS pays the income tax to the IMF which pays it to the British Crown.
9) To make all these legal changes a new consitituition is written - The Constituition of the United States of America (for swapped to of which in legal jargon signifies the constituition of a corporation).
10) The US corporation is still repaying its debts to Britain today. Corporations have no legal authority to create laws but because of legal fiction it holds power over the American people. The Queen of England can and does create laws for the US which it has to obey because it isnt a country its a British corporation. |
Yeah, this is sovereign citizen woo that forms the basis of their claim that US courts are subject to British maritime law. They tend to wind up in prison when they start spouting their nonsense in court. Article 1 of the Treaty of Paris is still in effect today, which says "His Brittanic Majesty acknowledges the said United States, viz., New Hampshire, Massachusetts Bay, Rhode Island and Providence Plantations, Connecticut, New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Maryland, Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina and Georgia, to be free sovereign and independent states, that he treats with them as such, and for himself, his heirs, and successors, relinquishes all claims to the government, propriety, and territorial rights of the same and every part thereof."
If the argument is that having a Constitution makes a land into a corporation, then Germany, Norway, the Netherlands, Belgium, Denmark, Luxembourg, Austria, Liechtenstein, Latvia, Ireland, Iceland, Italy, Germany, France, and Malta are all corporations as well (and Liechtenstein does not belong to the IMF).
As mentioned, the order makes no sense. The IRS (1862 for founding, 1953 for the change to the name IRS) was created to pay the IMF (created in 1944), and to make the legal change, the Constitution was passed in 1787. The idea of a conspiracy needing over 150 years to start their plan seems ludicrously inefficient.
The idea also ignores the fact that a second war was fought in 1812, and another very nearly happened in the 1860s (when factions within the British government favored recognizing the Confederacy). Corporations don't generally declare open war on their owners.
That said, there is one British enclave within US territory; the grave of James Cook is considered sovereign British territory, granted by the Monarch of Hawaii to England in perpetuity in 1877 and honored by the US still.
The idea might be fun for an alt-history game (it would fit well in a cyberpunk or conspiracy game), but it's as fictional as T2K's 1990s nuclear war.