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Not sure where this came from? not sure if it is movie prop or something the the US Army was testing.
Are those AGM-114 Hellfire or AGM-65 Maverick missiles?
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Appears to be a mock up of a Hellfire II.
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Are you sure? the picture and truck are pre 2000 I think
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The truck is a CUCV (a military version of a Chevy 2500) and the mount looks like tripod for a TOW in ground mount.
I think it is a clever photoshop. There has been on again off again prototypes for a ground launcher version of the hellfire. The missile is a Hellfire and the mount looks like the hard point for a Apache. I think it is a clever photoshop with elements taken from several sources. |
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ArmySGT's right. There is no CLU (command/launch guidance unit) in the system, and firing the missiles from that truck would blow ALL of the windows out. I'd say it's photoshopped too.
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Primarily an anti-ship missile, as the RBS 17. It's a modified (by Bofors) AGM-114A. The intent was to use them against landing craft to allow longer-ranged weapons to focus on other ships. The warhead was modified for this role, detonating after penetration of the hull, so it wouldn't be as effective in an anti-vehicular role. Norway had some as well (I don't know if they still do).
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How is it targeted.
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Laser designation. Except for the Longbow variant (AGM-114L, which is radar-guided), all Hellfires are laser-guided. The designator does not have to be at the same location as the launcher; as long as the missile can see the dot, it'll go for it. This also gives it limited re-targeting capability, since if the dot is moved to a different target within the field of view, the missile will steer accordingly.
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My guess is that the pic is 9th ID HTLD. They were doing a lot of stuff with CUCVs in the mid-80s as they waited to receive HMMWVs. They had a ground launched hellfire unit. The unit expected to receive UAVs, so they used surrogate manned aircraft, which likely included laser designation capability. They also had forward lasing teams to designate targets.
The 22 meg file in the second link is worth a read. There's a terrible pic at the back that looks like a CUCV firing a Hellfire to me... https://books.google.pl/books?id=zi3...vision&f=false http://oai.dtic.mil/oai/oai?verb=get...fier=ADA370233 |
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EDIT: Just remembered that GPS guidance doesn't work well against moving targets.
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That, and Hellfire only has a 5 mile range. It's less than 2 seconds from weapon release to maximum range, so you're talking about potentially very short lasing times. The shortest-ranged weapon I can think of with GPS guidance is the AGM-176 Griffin, which has ~12-15 miles of range when air-launched.
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A lot of these limited issue/experimental light vehicles could be placed in in the 9th LMD, which would still have its experimental mission by the early 1990s.
Light armor could be placed into the 82nd and light infantry units, and rumors like the Rangers having about a platoon worth of Wiesels fior testing and a single Stryker for testing could be included, along with SOCOM-type HUMWWVs and Ninja Jeeps.
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I think I found this launcher's origin. It is a "real" launcher but NOT a complete one. The reason there's no CLU (the black box which energizes the missiles) or any cable running from one (like the cable running down the side of the second launcher shown in the field with the two soldiers) is because one is not normally attached to this launch rail. The rail shown made an appearance on the US Navy's Cyclone Class Patrol Ships and the rail launcher is a "plug and play" assembly that connects to the ship's command and control systems (and therefore needs no external power/launch system). I'm guessing the pickup is a delivery vehicle taking it to a ship or test site.
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The Swedish launcher looks different. It has a tripod, a U-shaped swivel mount, and a crossbeam at the top that the Hellfire is suspended from. The launcher on the back of the truck doesn't have anything to the outside of the missile, where the Swedish launcher would.
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Pop goes the Wiesel 2 with a 30mm remote turret.
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I always find Hellfire concept vehicles interesting but then again that goes back to the old M2A3 Bradley Hellfire and the like in the Twilight Vehicle Guides.
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