The Best That Never Was 2 (Prototypes)

[The Dark]

Originally Posted by lordroel

How is it targeted.

Laser designation. Except for the Longbow variant (AGM-114L, which is radar-guided), all Hellfires are laser-guided. The designator does not have to be at the same location as the launcher; as long as the missile can see the dot, it'll go for it. This also gives it limited re-targeting capability, since if the dot is moved to a different target within the field of view, the missile will steer accordingly.

[Damocles]

My guess is that the pic is 9th ID HTLD. They were doing a lot of stuff with CUCVs in the mid-80s as they waited to receive HMMWVs. They had a ground launched hellfire unit. The unit expected to receive UAVs, so they used surrogate manned aircraft, which likely included laser designation capability. They also had forward lasing teams to designate targets.

The 22 meg file in the second link is worth a read. There's a terrible pic at the back that looks like a CUCV firing a Hellfire to me...

https://books.google.pl/books?id=zi3...vision&f=false

http://oai.dtic.mil/oai/oai?verb=get...fier=ADA370233

[lordroel]

Originally Posted by The Dark

Laser designation. Except for the Longbow variant (AGM-114L, which is radar-guided), all Hellfires are laser-guided. The designator does not have to be at the same location as the launcher; as long as the missile can see the dot, it'll go for it. This also gives it limited re-targeting capability, since if the dot is moved to a different target within the field of view, the missile will steer accordingly.

So could one designator be use to home in more than one missile into a target at once.

[pmulcahy11b]

Originally Posted by The Dark

Laser designation. Except for the Longbow variant (AGM-114L, which is radar-guided), all Hellfires are laser-guided. The designator does not have to be at the same location as the launcher; as long as the missile can see the dot, it'll go for it. This also gives it limited re-targeting capability, since if the dot is moved to a different target within the field of view, the missile will steer accordingly.

They never thought of making a GPS-guided version?

EDIT: Just remembered that GPS guidance doesn't work well against moving targets.

[The Dark]

Originally Posted by pmulcahy11b

They never thought of making a GPS-guided version?

EDIT: Just remembered that GPS guidance doesn't work well against moving targets.

That, and Hellfire only has a 5 mile range. It's less than 2 seconds from weapon release to maximum range, so you're talking about potentially very short lasing times. The shortest-ranged weapon I can think of with GPS guidance is the AGM-176 Griffin, which has ~12-15 miles of range when air-launched.

[pmulcahy11b]

A lot of these limited issue/experimental light vehicles could be placed in in the 9th LMD, which would still have its experimental mission by the early 1990s.

Light armor could be placed into the 82nd and light infantry units, and rumors like the Rangers having about a platoon worth of Wiesels fior testing and a single Stryker for testing could be included, along with SOCOM-type HUMWWVs and Ninja Jeeps.

[Draq]

Paul has the Colt cmg 2 listed in the 'best that never was' weapons list, but what about the cmg 3? https://youtu.be/g3aayF-S2ps

[Draq]

Oh also about the em-2 in .280... https://youtu.be/_wdhN5_RpX4

[Draq]

A preview for future videos including the 308 Sterling rifle, and the 280 fal
https://youtu.be/O5vLAY2k9dc

[.45cultist]

Originally Posted by Draq

Oh also about the em-2 in .280... https://youtu.be/_wdhN5_RpX4

That's as old as the 4.6MM G36 prototype!

[pmulcahy11b]

Originally Posted by Draq

Paul has the Colt cmg 2 listed in the 'best that never was' weapons list, but what about the cmg 3? https://youtu.be/g3aayF-S2ps

Must...do...research...

[rcaf_777]

Colt made a few weapons like this

Colt CMG #3
Colt Auto Rilfe
Diemaco(Now Colt Canada) Light Support Weapon