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I wanted to put this thread up here to gather feedback for those who have been thinking about doing sourcebooks, modules or mini-adventures for those who might be interested.

For instance have been working on a Kenya sourcebook and considering after that something involving either Oceania, Vietnam, Texas, Yugoslavia or Korea or possibly more in Africa.

Very interested in hearing what there might be out there as to member's interests and desires for such ideas.
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South America, definitely - what are the Brazilians doing with that carrier of theirs?

Japan. This was basically our unsinkable PacRim aircraft carrier, so what's going on there?

Korea. A front-row seat to the beginning of the War. More troops there?

Likewise, Vietnam. Even in the early 1990s, the Vietnamese government were sending friendly overtures to the US gov't (although this was predicated on the visible crumbling of the USSR, an event that didn't happen in T2k in the 90s).

Thailand, another SEA power with an aircraft carrier (OK, basically a helo scow but still).

India. I could see them surviving in not terrible shape.

I think I've gone all the way 'round the horn now.
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I seem to recall in both V1 and V2.x that India and Pakistan virtually wipe each other out in their own nuclear exchange...

Re: Thailand, there's the Bangkok sourcebook, although I can't recall how much detail that has for the rest of the country

Korea is a definite.

South Africa?

And not to mention the F word, but I'd like to see more detail on France / the Franco Belgian Union.
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I working on stuff for Canada, and I have a mini adventure where the PC try and recover the Constitution of the United States, and the Liberty Bell,

Other Adventures that I am working on, are the recovery of the US Dies of the Great Seal, and retaking a US Mint?

I also have a few TV based adventures, envoling Gilligan's Island, Andy Griffith Show, Dukes of Hazzard, and MacGyver

I have also been think about doing a Love Boat one too, but hard to plan out a good adventure, it is set in Korea.
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Korea would be good: GDW had a Korea sourcebook planned, according to a Challenge magazine issue (1990 or '91).

Kenya: seeing something based on Frank Frey's work finally coming up.

SoCal or Central California.
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I wanted to put this thread up here to gather feedback for those who have been thinking about doing sourcebooks, modules or mini-adventures for those who might be interested.

For instance have been working on a Kenya sourcebook and considering after that something involving either Oceania, Vietnam, Texas, Yugoslavia or Korea or possibly more in Africa.

Very interested in hearing what there might be out there as to member's interests and desires for such ideas.
Me and Rainbow Six were doing a British one but real life got in the way after we nearly finished Scotland. I'd love to participate in any other sourcebooks but like everyone time is sometimes at a premium.
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Well, the great uncovered and undercovered areas of the world -- Korea, the Sino-Russian front, Alaska/Yukon/British Colombia, Latin and South America, Africa -- anyone here could add to that list.
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India and Pakistan had their own nuclear war. Pakistan struck first. Some parts of India might be in decent shape, but northern India probably took it on the chin.

I, too, am interested in what is going on inside the Sixth US Army area of operations.
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Me and Rainbow Six were doing a British one but real life got in the way after we nearly finished Scotland. I'd love to participate in any other sourcebooks but like everyone time is sometimes at a premium.
RN7 is being modest here by referring to what we did as a joint project...he probably did 90 - 95% of the work and came up with some great ideas. Unfortunately time is always the issue...I think I first started seriously working on my Alternative SGUK in 2008 and despite scaling down my ambitions I still haven't completed it (Marauder groups, which I'd hoped to have done for Xmas, will be next to be done - I hope to have that finished by the end of May).
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Korea would be good: GDW had a Korea sourcebook planned, according to a Challenge magazine issue (1990 or '91).

Kenya: seeing something based on Frank Frey's work finally coming up.

SoCal or Central California.
You will see Kenya soon - estimate I am about 70% done on a sourcebook for Kenya and the immediately surrounding area based on his work and including a few touches of my own

A question for anyone - is there any kind of legal disclaimer I need to put on it for either GDW or the current owner of Twilight 2000 and if so what?
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RN7 is being modest here by referring to what we did as a joint project...he probably did 90 - 95% of the work and came up with some great ideas. Unfortunately time is always the issue...I think I first started seriously working on my Alternative SGUK in 2008 and despite scaling down my ambitions I still haven't completed it (Marauder groups, which I'd hoped to have done for Xmas, will be next to be done - I hope to have that finished by the end of May).
Rainbow I love the work you two have done on that project - I cant wait to see that finally released - frankly I consider it a much better work than the official GDW work - to the point that it may be what should be used as canon

Its a great work (Rainbow sent me a link to it) and I highly recommend it
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Rainbow I love the work you two have done on that project - I cant wait to see that finally released - frankly I consider it a much better work than the official GDW work - to the point that it may be what should be used as canon

Its a great work (Rainbow sent me a link to it) and I highly recommend it
Thanks Olefin - appreciate that.

Just to clarify, the work that RN7 and I did (and as noted, RN7 did the lion's share of) was an expansion of the material that I originally posted. It runs to around twenty odd pages / 13,000 words, around 75 - 80% of which is new material which hasn't been posted to the forum.
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My current plans are to create and release a Kenyan sourcebook that will cover much of East Africa as well and then possibly do a mini-adventure in that area as well, looking at a rewrite of City of Angels, some mini-adventures based on Lone Star, Red Star and also looking at Papua New Guinea and the war between Indonesia and Australia

Hopign to get Kenya done and ready by the end of May.
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I'm looking at the Indonesia/Australia conflict and would more than welcome any help. Not one of my priority projects but I can bump it up.

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Love to help and very interested in doing so. If you tell me I can see what I can put together for you. Always love to see new material come out on games I play.
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Arabian peninsula, California and Nordic countries.

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Arabian peninsula is a good one - I was actually surprised when I re-read the RDF once i owned it that Oman isnt mentioned in any of the forces there. They are definitely pro-US but they were totally forgotten.

And Yemen would be a great troublemaker for the French and Saudis to have to deal with.

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Africa...not just Kenya which has seen plenty of input so far but the entire continent.

Lots of countries that most Americans have never heard of before or even find on a map. Also lots of ethnic groups that most Americans have never heard of or seen outside of a National Geographic magazine. And a lot of these countries are situated on natural resources that most of the developed world wants and needs.

in regards to a disclaimer, if you are worried about it, you might want to check out the Far Future fair use policy: http://www.farfuture.net/FFEFairUsePolicy2008.pdf

(sorry link thingamajig isn't working, got an error message, Kato?)

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You can also take a look at chico's site, he's got the disclaimer listed in the pdf but substitute Twilight 2000 for Traveller.

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I'm looking at the Indonesia/Australia conflict and would more than welcome any help.
Before doing anything, it's worth reading up on the WWII experiences of the Australians in PNG, in particular the Kokoda campaign. The terrain is absolutely ABYSMAL and without air support nearly impossible to operate in.
With the lack of roads in the region, movement by foot is the only option once aircraft, helicopters in particular are out of the picture. Therefore, with the much heavier loads of soldiers in the late 90's compared to 1942, offensive operations are extremely unlikely.
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Africa...not just Kenya which has seen plenty of input so far but the entire continent.

Lots of countries that most Americans have never heard of before or even find on a map. Also lots of ethnic groups that most Americans have never heard of or seen outside of a National Geographic magazine. And a lot of these countries are situated on natural resources that most of the developed world wants and needs.

in regards to a disclaimer, if you are worried about it, you might want to check out the Far Future fair use policy: http://www.farfuture.net/FFEFairUsePolicy2008.pdf

(sorry link thingamajig isn't working, got an error message, Kato?)

Far Future is the current owner of T2k. You can also contacting them at Far Future Enterprises, 1418 N Clinton Blvd, Bloomington, IL 61701 USA.
Email: farfuture@gmail.com.

You can also take a look at chico's site, he's got the disclaimer listed in the pdf but substitute Twilight 2000 for Traveller.

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Thank you very much BDD - that was exactly the info that I was looking for as to the permissions I need to put up with anything I publish! Defintely not looking to get into any legal trouble at all. I may even submit what I do to Far Future first and see if they are interested in it as an offical submission - hey a guy can dream cant he?

So you know what I am putting together on Kenya will have info on all the surrounding countries around it (i.e. Tanzania, Rwanda, etc..) with the intention of possibly doing more sourcebooks as well. It will be a blend of T2000 with some events from the real timeline brought in as well.
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Before doing anything, it's worth reading up on the WWII experiences of the Australians in PNG, in particular the Kokoda campaign. The terrain is absolutely ABYSMAL and without air support nearly impossible to operate in.
With the lack of roads in the region, movement by foot is the only option once aircraft, helicopters in particular are out of the picture. Therefore, with the much heavier loads of soldiers in the late 90's compared to 1942, offensive operations are extremely unlikely.
Actually you would see helos and the such in that war Leg - at least in the beginning and even now but in very limited numbers (Australia most likely still has some oil production going just not as much as before) most likely due to lack of spare parts to keep the helos going.

I do think offensive operations can be done - but that most of them will be either seaborne around the periphery or by light infantry and Special Ops types or using native troops who operate with lighter loads.

And if your load is too heavy - well then you find out what you dont need and what you do. (Think the scene at the beginning of Platoon where Charlie Sheen gets told to dump a lot of unnecessary equipment before he goes out on patrol)
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Interested in anything based in the US. Something like perhaps regional sourcebooks if that makes sense.

In addition if anyone had scenarios or other materials for a US campaign I'd be happy to receive them.
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TicToc - regional sourcebooks conforming to Howling Wildnerness and Kidnapped or ones that are based without the drought? Just wondering as there are those who lean both ways on the board and trying to see what people are looking for.
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And if your load is too heavy - well then you find out what you dont need and what you do. (Think the scene at the beginning of Platoon where Charlie Sheen gets told to dump a lot of unnecessary equipment before he goes out on patrol)
Once again, I suggest actually doing a little research on the terrain and military history of the region before making sweeping and uneducated statements.
We're not talking about short ranged patrols of a day or two by a relatively small unit, but long term operations of weeks and months by battalions and brigades.

The 39th Battalion commenced operations in July 1942 with approximately 700 men of all ranks. They were supported by approximately 1,000 native carriers over upwards of 60 miles of mountainous terrain with no roads - only a single track which in places required climbing up and down on hands and knees while enduring near monsoonal rains.
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Following Japan’s sudden entry into the Second World War, a new 39th was raised as part of the 30th Brigade to garrison Port Moresby. The 39th joined the 49th Infantry Battalion, already in Moresby, and the 53rd Infantry Battalion, which had been quickly formed in Sydney. The 39th arrived in Moresby at the start of January 1942, with little military training.

The 39th was initially used for garrison duties and working parties. In June it was ordered to proceed up the Kokoda Trail to block any possible Japanese overland advance. The 39th B Company and troops from the Papuan Infantry Battalion (PIB) reached Kokoda on 15 July. Japanese forces landed at Gona, on the north coast of Papua, a week later and quickly moved inland.

The first clash occurred at Awala on 23 July and the Australians fell back to Kokoda. On 29 July the Japanese attacked Kokoda and the Australians were forced to withdraw to Deniki early the next morning. On 8 August the 39th launched a counter-attack at Kokoda but, outnumbered and short of ammunition, fell back to Deniki after two days of fighting. The Australians eventually managed to repel the ongoing Japanese attack and on 14 August the 39th and PIB fell back to Isurava.

Fighting ceased for almost two weeks. During this time the 39th was joined by the 53rd and the headquarters of the 30th Brigade. On 23 August the 2/14th and 2/16th Battalions from the 7th Division 21st Brigade also reached the area. The Japanese resumed their advance on 26 August. Despite hard fighting the Australians were forced back to Eora Creek on 30 August, Templeton's Crossing on 2 September, and Efogi three days later.

Exhausted, the 39th was relieved and sent down the track to Koitaki to rest. The 7th Division 25th Brigade (comprising the 3rd Infantry Battalion and the 2/1st Pioneer Battalion) came in to reinforce the Australian effort. Bitter fighting ensued and the Australians withdrew to Imita Ridge on 17 September. However, the Japanese had reached their limit and on 24 September began to withdrawal. The Australians reoccupied Kokoda on 2 November.

Meanwhile, after a month at Koitaki, the 39th returned to Port Moresby in mid-October, where it prepared defensive positions at Pyramid Point. The interlude from fighting was brief.

Having pushed the Japanese back across the Kokoda Trail, the 16th and 25th Brigades and two inexperienced American regiments were engaged in the “battle of the beachheads” at Buna, Gona, and Sanananda. The Japanese positions were well-prepared and heavily defended. At the end of November the 30th Brigade was flown across the Owen Stanley’s to reinforce the attack. The 39th became attached to the 21st Brigade.

The 21st Brigade captured Gona village on 1 December and the Japanese withdrew to Gona Mission. The Australians advanced on the Mission on 6 December but were stopped by the Japanese. The 39th D Company was “literally shot to pieces”. The combined fighting strength of the 21st Brigade was now down to 755 men, of whom 403 were from the 39th. Nonetheless, on 8 December the 39th attacked again and captured half of the Japanese defences by nightfall. Gona Mission was captured the next day and on 18 December the 39th took the last Japanese position at the creek west of Gona.

Fierce fighting continued further along the coast and on 21 December the 21st Brigade and 39th moved to the Sanananda Track. The next morning the 39th moved into a forward position called Huggins’ Road Block. The 39th defended the area and attacked nearby Japanese positions. In the New Year it withdrew to Soputa and returned to the 30th Brigade.

The 39th had suffered heavily. When the battalion was flown to Moresby on 25 January it mustered a mere handful of soldiers - 7 officers and 25 men. It rested at Morseby and gradually gained strength as men returned from hospital.
It's worth noting the logistical situation in 1942 was very similar to that likely in T2K - the Australians only had the native carriers (who needed to eat nearly their entire load capacity) and two (2) Dakota aircraft which were only able to sortie on average twice a day due to weather conditions in the mountains. Even when they could fly, there was only one suitable drop zone and once Kokoda was lost early on, no landing strips. ALL casualties had to endure a week or more of being carried along the extremely difficult track before they could receive anything more than first aid (if that).

A list of suggested reading can be found here: http://www.39battalion.org/Books.pdf
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"Once again, I suggest actually doing a little research on the terrain and military history of the region before making sweeping and uneducated statements.
We're not talking about short ranged patrols of a day or two by a relatively small unit, but long term operations of weeks and months by battalions and brigades."

First off you have not said that to me before

Second insults wont get you anywhere

Third I was referring basically to patrol like short offensives by small units or Special Forces - not a long term sustained one.
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One area I haven't seen mentioned is southern Europe. We know from the original timeline the Greeks (with Italian support? I'm not sure on this) were duking it out with the Turks. I'm sure something could be done with that.
I never cared for the idea that the Italians would strike through neutral Austria to get at the Germans. It just didn't make sense to me.
Also, what about Spain and Portugal? I don't think I even saw those two nations mentioned in any T2K product.

Now my thoughts are expanding to the whole Mediterranean region. The eastern part might fit in with an expansion to the RDF Sourcebook: Israel, Syria, etc.

Someone mentioned South America; perhaps Central America as well. I'm sure in the T2K world, there's plenty of action going on there.
Also, Gateway to the Spanish Main could be expanded on, into a Caribbean Sourcebook.

I could go on but hell, I'd end up just listing every region on the planet ultimately then.
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this thread is starting to go down the road we've seen before. Let's chill out everyone.

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One area I haven't seen mentioned is southern Europe. We know from the original timeline the Greeks (with Italian support? I'm not sure on this) were duking it out with the Turks. I'm sure something could be done with that.
I never cared for the idea that the Italians would strike through neutral Austria to get at the Germans. It just didn't make sense to me.
Also, what about Spain and Portugal? I don't think I even saw those two nations mentioned in any T2K product.

Now my thoughts are expanding to the whole Mediterranean region. The eastern part might fit in with an expansion to the RDF Sourcebook: Israel, Syria, etc.

Someone mentioned South America; perhaps Central America as well. I'm sure in the T2K world, there's plenty of action going on there.
Also, Gateway to the Spanish Main could be expanded on, into a Caribbean Sourcebook.

I could go on but hell, I'd end up just listing every region on the planet ultimately then.
I'm with you on listing every region of the planet. Antartica anyone???

On a serious note, the Med does get some treatement in the Last Sub series. The second module in that is titled "Mediterranean Cruise" but it doesn't go into a lot of detail about Spain, Portugal, Italy, Greece, Turkey or Libya and Gibraltar (characters make stops in Libya and Gibraltar)

The Big Yellow Book (2.x) has paragraphs on Spain, Portugal, Italy and Turkey. I haven't memorized them and I'm at work but someone with access to the Big Yellow Book can elaborate.
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Med Cruise has some very general info on Spain, Greece and Libya and Romania, basically enough to make a very rough outline and not much more.

One thing I will try to do is what is happening in Yugoslavia - the only intact US Army in Europe is still there, 3 divisions worth of men. And the canon, besides what little is mentioned in the timeline and in the US Vehicle Guide is largely silent there (and I dont count the Eastern European Sourcebook - it is full of misinformation)
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Wanted to bring this thread back to life now that new material is finally being added to the Twilight 2000 canon

Marc Miller definitely is looking for more canon releases for Twilight 2000 now that the East Africa Sourcebook has been released in order to keep expanding and adding to the canon - I am definitely looking for ideas that people are interested in for follow ups - have a few of my own that I am already working on
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Naval (got some ideas there), Korea, California (You'd have to split it up into NorCal and SoCal), maybe an Air Force one for the USAF, another for the USMC (covered in U.S. Army Vehicle Guide, but....).
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