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Default 09-02-01 -

After the last mission you head back to New York.

Mr. Mao set up a direct and secure/encrypted communication link via an laptop.

It's called the Hattori Hansa Network (after the katana-maker in Kill Bill)

This means:

You are able to send eachother encrypted text,voice or video messages in real time.
You can alert eachother of upcoming jobs. (etc)
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with my newly earned cash I set about living off the grid -keeping a small surveillance operation going on all my soft targets -family, friends etc -with a little help from Mao if he is interested in doing some charity.I also go about getting him onboard for our next contract.Try to get his help in setting up.

SEE PM #1

I disguise in baseball cap and sunglasses or scarf/upturned collar if chilly and keep away from chokepoints /camera covered areas as much as possible.

I try to develop a new contract for our little group-as well as doing a little pre-recruiting research to assemble a team for the next one.

I also set up -cash only/fake id - a long term lease on a suitable isofac and stock it with essentials .Including medical supplies for..err.. unforseen dangerous situations with the kitchen cutlery.
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here he is -other FtF players in this campaign gotta remember that they do not know these details from the outset - thats just bad RPG.

"Not halal playing"

anybody else want to use for their own game -please do .Its an honour.
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un nerved by the recent events in Oaxaca ,Barnaby makes a desicion to spend most of his money on a really nice RV with room for the whole family a BIG wad of spending cash and force them to go on that road trip they always talked about .The family business will have to rely on hired hands for a few months til they get back .

"Try not to use your card so much -or at all ,just use the cash I gave you " he tels them as he pushes them onboard and gives them a burner number in case of dire emergency .(he makes sure daddys remington 870 12 gage and a pack of double aught is stashed onboard )

Russian mo******ckers!!

Next Barnaby sends an a wire transfer for a few thousand dollars to the immideate family of the poor delivery guy they did.(Using Maos expertice in setting up an anonymus wire transfer ). Only info attached should be something like "Organization Nacional del Trabajando " or some such Mexican Labour Union .

keep on working on fiinding those Russians as well as try to get the Chicago mission up and running .
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you sent a "agent" to europe to keep an eye on the model.

please write up details.

who what why when etc
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Name : Miranda Hausser
Age : 29
Specialization : disguise,observation,interrogation

Prize: US $ 10 000 month .Violence will add a cost of 50 -100 % pr month .

LOCATION : privately run Medical rehabilitation and substance abuse center
outside Geneva,Switzerland

DETAILS:

Hired as a "spotter" for the duration of the 6 month rehab stay of the "mark" from Episode 1 ,Miranda has taken a job as a drug counselor at the facility and poses as such using false documents and credentials .Her instructions are to keep tabs on the subject ,protect subject and to report any suspicious movement in area .As far as possible she is to gather intel on anyone trying to intervene or get to the subject .

In this way she has managed to get close to the subject unconspicuously .Her contact in the local criminal police keeps her updated on suspicious movement in the idyllic Swiss village .Her stunning good looks helps her in this -no doubt .

Her contact on the outside also have a line on a parole officer in nearby Geneva.If needed a fairly rough crew of former thugs can be assembled for the drive up there and provide muscle with a fair bit of professionalism .Some shifty people to follow them around is also on call -at a price.

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Name : Miranda Hausser
Age : 29
Specialization : disguise,observation,interrogation

Prize: US $ 10 000 month .Violence will add a cost of 50 -100 % pr month .

LOCATION : privately run Medical rehabilitation and substance abuse center
outside Geneva,Switzerland

DETAILS:

Hired as a "spotter" for the duration of the 6 month rehab stay of the "mark" from Episode 1 ,Miranda has taken a job as a drug counselor at the facility and poses as such using false documents and credentials .Her instructions are to keep tabs on the subject ,protect subject and to report any suspicious movement in area .As far as possible she is to gather intel on anyone trying to intervene or get to the subject .

In this way she has managed to get close to the subject unconspicuously .Her contact in the local criminal police keeps her updated on suspicious movement in the idyllic Swiss village .Her stunning good looks helps her in this -no doubt .

Her contact on the outside also have a line on a parole officer in nearby Geneva.If needed a fairly rough crew of former thugs can be assembled for the drive up there and provide muscle with a fair bit of professionalism .Some shifty people to follow them around is also on call -at a price.
get a picture please - but excellent work
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After the Chicago job went semi well , the money is split and I take off and seperate as fast as possible .Travelling via EXTRA VEHICLE NO#2 Ford Blazer If I am not mistaken .

I use part of teh money to buy a little storage gear.Yhis is for all the stuff from the Chicago mission that I stil have .Then I wipe it all down with cleaning solution ,oil and grease it overly much -and bury my gear in plastic wrap and greased up waterproof plastic containers with screw on lids in the woods- well outside Chicago .You never know when all that stuff will come in handy again .(Using gloves the whole time !)

I make sure to hide my tracks to the best of my ability and to mark the spot by carving patterns in the bark of nearby trees indicating the spot via morse code i.e --**-- etc saying 3o meters North or 30 metes South accordingly .GPS location is noted down -in code .

I then go off grid and only surface from time to time to run checks on my situation with the possible targets for the Russians- my family on their road trip and the girl . I make sure to tell my folks the danger they are in and provide them with any amount of cash they want .

Also I check in on the guys and try to get the work to progress on finding the Russians - I want them BAD!

Otherwise - hide

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I continue building a few caches around the conus .

I now resort to driving a non descript old Ford pick up truck around the states ,burying plastic drums with screw on lids that have been waterproofed by using silicon paste ,grease etc .Everything must be bought/made ready to withstand storage in the ground for years .

The locations are marked with the usual morse code and the GPS location is noted down in code .

Will edit in more locations and contents of caches .
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I set about getting myself the following kit :

Medical :
http://www.narescue.com/High-Threat-...-P160C140.aspx

http://www.caromeds.com/bleeder.htm

http://www.caromeds.com/custom.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equipme...a_Combat_Medic

this combined into 3 different lightweight kits :
1 for stationary/onboard use
1 for vehicular use
1 for tactical carry . ( needless to say kits are modular ,I dont bring double set of EXTRAS for this one -just a few extras )

vests from BSST
1 x overt UX 4 modular type and total of 4 plates and 2 carriers
1 x P6 covert w extra carrier
1xvest from this place ( flotation)

http://images.google.no/imgres?imgur...NO320%26um%3D1

link

http://www.bsst.de/v08/en/index.html

http://www.americanbodyarmor.com/Eco...ctCategoryID=1


helmets : 1 field and 1 urban/CQB

http://www.diamondbacktactical.com/T...TbYbwujyKRLmBJ

http://images.google.no/imgres?imgur...a%3DN%26um%3D1
I also get 3 UT1 universal pistol kits and 3 UB1-3 model mounts as well as the following implements :

a flashligh /laser combo for rifles
ditto for pistols
a laser IR light combo for pistols
ditto for rifles

link
http://images.google.no/imgres?imgur...%3D20%26um%3D1

also some rails

http://images.google.no/imgres?imgur...NO320%26um%3D1

ak alloy top handguard and a sidemounted weaver rail for the standard AKs

also a 10 loose picatinny spec rails w screws and tools etc

I get an :
OKO collimator sight with the SC2 steel casing
and a PK-A Kobra collimator weaver type mount .

also some night vision :scope and goggles

http://www.atncorp.com/DayNight/DayN...2-3AbrMark4CQT

http://www.atncorp.com/NightVision/N...les/ATNPVS7-3A

some coms ( 5) :
http://www.ustactical.com/blackbox-t...-kit-1762.html

and 3 of these :
http://www.rfcomm.harris.com/7800V/

english /somali dictionary w phrases
english /arab dictionary w phrases

I finish it of by adding 3 shifts of the best brit desert kit /Sasskit produced plus sportsunderwear for hot climates and a few shifts of civvie clothes and footwear
also the ,extra large multitool ,SASSKIT-dagger and a KABAR high carbon camp knife
loadbearing equipment /chestrig / standard hip rig
my "possibles" bag .(firestarter,spork,racingspoon,DOAN ,sleeping bag,toiletry,cutlery ,waterpurificationtabs etc )

the very last item : the collected works of Cormac McCarthy .

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I set about getting myself the following kit :

Medical :
http://www.narescue.com/High-Threat-...-P160C140.aspx

http://www.caromeds.com/bleeder.htm

http://www.caromeds.com/custom.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equipme...a_Combat_Medic

this combined into 3 different lightweight kits :
1 for stationary/onboard use
1 for vehicular use
1 for tactical carry . ( needless to say kits are modular ,I dont bring double set of EXTRAS for this one -just a few extras )

2 vests from BSST
1 x overt UX 4 modular type and total of 4 plates and 2 carriers
1 x P6 covert w extra carrier
1 x vest from ABA /extreme force (covert ) w extra carrier
link

http://www.bsst.de/v08/en/index.html

http://www.americanbodyarmor.com/Eco...ctCategoryID=1


helmets : 1 field and 1 urban/CQB

http://www.diamondbacktactical.com/T...TbYbwujyKRLmBJ

http://images.google.no/imgres?imgur...a%3DN%26um%3D1
I also get 3 UT1 universal pistol kits and 3 UB1-3 model mounts as well as the following implements :

a flashligh /laser combo for rifles
ditto for pistols
a laser IR light combo for pistols
ditto for rifles

link
http://images.google.no/imgres?imgur...%3D20%26um%3D1

also some rails

http://images.google.no/imgres?imgur...NO320%26um%3D1

ak alloy top handguard and a sidemounted weaver rail for the standard AKs

also a 10 loose picatinny spec rails w screws and tools etc

I get an :
OKO collimator sight with the SC2 steel casing
and a PK-A Kobra collimator weaver type mount .

also some night vision :scope and goggles

http://www.atncorp.com/DayNight/DayN...2-3AbrMark4CQT

http://www.atncorp.com/NightVision/N...les/ATNPVS7-3A

some coms ( 5) :
http://www.ustactical.com/blackbox-t...-kit-1762.html

and 3 of these :
http://www.rfcomm.harris.com/7800V/

english /somali dictionary w phrases
english /arab dictionary w phrases

I finish it of by adding 3 shifts of the best brit desert kit /Sasskit produced plus sportsunderwear for hot climates and a few shifts of civvie clothes and footwear
also the ,extra large multitool ,SASSKIT-dagger and a KABAR high carbon camp knife
loadbearing equipment /chestrig / standard hip rig
my "possibles" bag .(firestarter,spork,racingspoon,DOAN ,sleeping bag,toiletry,cutlery ,waterpurificationtabs etc )

the very last item : the collected works of Cormac McCarthy .
havent checked the links but it looks thorough and good work

price and weight ?
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It is about 40 kgs of gear here ,but I am counting on the other players to give me some from their quotas as I got communications gear and medical equipment for everybody on the list ( I am not risking that on a Somali flea market )

Also I was thinking of wearing one of the covert vests to save 3 kgs there (which would land me at 30 KGs)

PRICE : roughly :

30 000 ( thats 20 000 for the gear and app 10 000 in commissions for the restricted items to be done clean and smooth . )

I pack in a civvie hockey type bag and bring a 45 l rucksack also .

Travel in typical warm weather business suit .
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I enter Egypt using my Joseph Kelly ,Chicago ,Illinois passport.
Immideately after landing I set up shop in a small hotel in the Masr el Adīma district .

I stash my merc gear in a suitcase at a safe tourist deposit service and pay a few months in advance .

I try my utmost to blend in and seem inconspicious.I constantly backtrack ,and try to do cut-outs to shake anyone following me .Comm sec is maintained at all times .

tasks:

1)
Buy illegal firearms. city of 16 mill. inhabitants .I suggest that its not really that hard to get it done .I want to use a teenager kid as a go between.
2)
scout the routes that we will be travellig as well as the hotel were we will meet up .
3)
Purchase used Peugot taxi cab.I want to use a go between as a proxy for this ,so I cannot be directly tied to it . Aquaint myself with these locations and note possible ambush spots etc .Also learn to drive in Cairo traffic .
4)
Try to develop a small time criminal contact -like a teenager and a crooked law enforcement officer to do bigger things .

Is there anything the GM would liek to add ?
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I enter Egypt using my Joseph Kelly ,Chicago ,Illinois passport.
Immideately after landing I set up shop in a small hotel in the Masr el Adīma district .

I stash my merc gear in a suitcase at a safe tourist deposit service and pay a few months in advance .

I try my utmost to blend in and seem inconspicious.I constantly backtrack ,and try to do cut-outs to shake anyone following me .Comm sec is maintained at all times .

tasks:

1)
Buy illegal firearms. city of 16 mill. inhabitants .I suggest that its not really that hard to get it done .I want to use a teenager kid as a go between.
2)
scout the routes that we will be travellig as well as the hotel were we will meet up .
3)
Purchase used Peugot taxi cab.I want to use a go between as a proxy for this ,so I cannot be directly tied to it . Aquaint myself with these locations and note possible ambush spots etc .Also learn to drive in Cairo traffic .
4)
Try to develop a small time criminal contact -like a teenager and a crooked law enforcement officer to do bigger things .

Is there anything the GM would liek to add ?
You board a plane and arrive in Egypt 1 week before Game Time.
Set up a small budget and a "seven note" (1 for each day) of what you do.
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You board a plane and arrive in Egypt 1 week before Game Time.
Set up a small budget and a "seven note" (1 for each day) of what you do.

I believe I PMed instructions some time ago stating that I want to get there 3 weeks ahead of schedule .
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Default if not possible -weekly schedule

Monday : - Travel to cairo in advance - check in at hotel in Masr al Adima ,100$

Tuesday: - Scout locations ,rent car and learn traffic and routes

Wednesday: - bribe street kids to get me a tokagypt or 2 plus mags and ammo keep scouting /driving

Thursday: more scouting/driving

Friday: - scout hotels,notice exits etc etc

Saturday: keep surveillance of meet location

Sunday: meet at hotel

If I do get there a longtime before in a PROFFESSIONAL manner , I repeat schedule .

total budget : 15000 us .
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Monday : - Travel to cairo in advance - check in at hotel in Masr al Adima ,100$

Tuesday: - Scout locations ,rent car and learn traffic and routes

Wednesday: - bribe street kids to get me a tokagypt or 2 plus mags and ammo keep scouting /driving

Thursday: more scouting/driving

Friday: - scout hotels,notice exits etc etc

Saturday: keep surveillance of meet location

Sunday: meet at hotel

If I do get there a longtime before in a PROFFESSIONAL manner , I repeat schedule .

total budget : 15000 us .
Well since you are the only player who had showed any kind of interest - you will be allowed 3 weeks
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You get a MSG from MAO

1 of the teams have been sighted arriving in Cairo, INT.Airport.
(The unbrekables)

Reason dictates they will attack you before you enter the boat in port said.
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Default arms shipment and govt.licensed security contractors papers

As pr previous mails I said to the client that I was tthrilled aboutt he work ,but that we needed this things registered in Egypt as I wasnt going to do his job if that meant pitching a running battle with the entire Egyptian security force community AND psycho assasins - I repeat my requisition of these and press the matter with the utmost urgency and demand affirmation before we hang up.

I really need clarification now : will we be able to get our kit before we are on the boat ? Papers at a bare minimum.THey cannot seriously believe that we are going to run at their schedule un armed and with no legal foundation in the country that invented the dungeon?

I also need clarification in regards to vehicles ,the size of cargo to be picked up along the way and drill the clients in our standard evac drill.
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As pr previous mails I said to the client that I was tthrilled aboutt he work ,but that we needed this things registered in Egypt as I wasnt going to do his job if that meant pitching a running battle with the entire Egyptian security force community AND psycho assasins - I repeat my requisition of these and press the matter with the utmost urgency and demand affirmation before we hang up.

I really need clarification now : will we be able to get our kit before we are on the boat ? Papers at a bare minimum.THey cannot seriously believe that we are going to run at their schedule un armed and with no legal foundation in the country that invented the dungeon?

I also need clarification in regards to vehicles ,the size of cargo to be picked up along the way and drill the clients in our standard evac drill.
OK here it is - Latest "orders" / HELP / INTEL

The professor has aranged you with a contact in Cairo.

Achmed Mohaderin - 55 - (Nomade)
Egyptian Gun-runner / smuggler /
He is loyal and well connected.He is an old friend of the professor.
He can deliver:
russian weapons - +15% normal price
uk weapons - +150% normal price
us weapons - +200% normal price
chinese weapons - +25% normal price
Egyptian weapons - normal price
south-african weapons - +50% normal price
this does not include AA-weapons and nukes
but he can arange for delivery of an old T55 if interested.

PS: remember you are going into a luxury hotel - so rifles etc will NOT be allowed and will raise huge suspicion

In regards to papers - this has been taken care of (real - not fake)

In regards to cargo pickup: - Here is the latest info.
A huge crate is to be picked up in Ramadan City - 40-50km N/E/E of Cairo


Second pickup is a person location to be disclosed after crate has been picked up.
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10 mags for each weapon please .


4x PP-93 smgs w 40 mags and holsters etc
http://thebigbookofwar.50megs.com/DO...achine%20Guns/

4 x ASM-DT "Morskoj Lev" [Sea Lion] dual medium (underwater and above water) assault rifle
http://world.guns.ru/assault/as95-e.htm


4x SPP-1 underwater pistol
http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg140-e.htm

4 x SR-3 "Vikhr" compact assault rifle
http://world.guns.ru/assault/as65-e.htm

4 x VSS 'Vintorez' silenced sniper rifle
http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sn20-e.htm

4X PB / 6P9 silenced pistol
http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg154-e.htm

1x AKs-U 74

6x AKM/AK47 / AKS47

5 X Yarygin PYa / MP-443 "Grach" pistol
http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg50-e.htm

5 x Tokarev TT pistol
http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg20-e.htm

2xKalashnikov PK / PKS / PKM / PKMS machine gun
http://world.guns.ru/machine/mg07-e.htm

2x Kord 12.7 6P50 heavy machine gun
http://world.guns.ru/machine/mg24-e.htm

OSV-96 Sniper rifle
http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sn60-e.htm

1x QLZ-87 or QLZ-87B
http://world.guns.ru/grenade/gl25-e.htm

ammo : 500 grenades

handgrenades :

frags : 50
wp: 50
smoke 50
flares/illum:200

ammo stockpile :
10 full mags each weapon as said before .
2500 rounds each caliber in addition .

I make it 70 000 dollars all included ( delivered )

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edited older post .

I arrange for a pick up and get my self a van to move my goods to safe houses etc .


I try to get any of the others to get in on the job as soon as possible .

I ready the main load of hard ware for sea-transportation in plastic drums and crates etc

I prepare "ready kits" for the crew upon arrival for the hotel duty ,
prep and stack vehicles and prepare expanded kits for the travel to port said including pick ups

As I understand we are to provide vehicles for the job I try to get the following :
something like this :
a 4x4
http://www.armoredcars.com/

and something like this :
a cargo truck

http://www.militarytrucks.ca/rv_project.htm


http://www.olive-drab.com/idphoto/id_photos_m35.php

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immideatley start transfer of funds to secure bank accounts and deposit cash
to my ongoing projects

the professors daughter
the escape of the Barnaby family and the continued operation of their roofing business
the bribery continues to get information on that Russian sob that has been after me .(devote much time and hundreds of thousands of dollars on this )

I also see to it that I cover my traces /trail .

After that I get into analyzing what it was that we got out of the safes,the tombs etc -use extreme caution !!
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Default Yezzz..Herr Doktor Proffessor !

What is up with ze vialz of Nazi goop we have extracte dfrom ze area of ze anomaly ?

And what of ze papers and ze files?

Surely Operation Chutulu from ze old nazi filez has an indication ..no ?

We haf ways of making you talk you know...

needless to say any research needs to be done in an enviroment where nothing gets out unless we want it too -like underground in a desolate research facility with plenty of airlocks and blastdoors and readily available flamethrowers and shotguns.

auf wiedersehen....
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Videofotage from -46 wreck was not hit my a torpedo-technology from that time,not even this time.....

regarding your financialz:

washing the funds white costs money (if u choose) to make the legal.

rather safe: 5%
safe: 10%
untracable: 15+%

minimum washing 1M USD

keep a proper record.
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What is up with ze vialz of Nazi goop we have extracte dfrom ze area of ze anomaly ?

And what of ze papers and ze files?

Surely Operation Chutulu from ze old nazi filez has an indication ..no ?

We haf ways of making you talk you know...

needless to say any research needs to be done in an enviroment where nothing gets out unless we want it too -like underground in a desolate research facility with plenty of airlocks and blastdoors and readily available flamethrowers and shotguns.

auf wiedersehen....
All of this is still in their original placements ,with you in the helicopter,enroute to the african mainland,no research has been possible to achive as of yet.
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All of this is still in their original placements ,with you in the helicopter,enroute to the african mainland,no research has been possible to achive as of yet.
Apart from the little notebook/journal you found...

....luckily Der Führer and Himler traveled to the Base before the bolsjeviks arrived in Berlin. - dated: 01-03-1946

small sidenote written in rough letters: "revenge is best served cold"
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Apart from the little notebook/journal you found...

....luckily Der Führer and Himler traveled to the Base before the bolsjeviks arrived in Berlin. - dated: 01-03-1946

small sidenote written in rough letters: "revenge is best served cold"
Ze Nazi Schweinhunds haf preserfed Hitlers brains!!!

This is super interesting . I try to get a hold of as much information as possibleon this -teh diaries,books,the file -all the papers in the safes and loot that are safe to start reading .

Since we are in a helicopter and on our way :

Are there others onboard apart from the pilot ?
I have the heli guys in our crew run thourough checks for boobytraps and sabotage .Also stay on top of teh course and everything the pilot does-so he doesnt leave us at a wromg adress - the Aden Gulf or some such .
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Default Teexas..Tejas...ai ai..

What was I thinking .

I forgot to buy a big as Stetson

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...7SUNA%26um%3D1

and a pair of custom .45s w lasers

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...a%3DN%26um%3D1

and of course the holsters to match

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...a%3DN%26um%3D1

and some old school ones too..
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_Y2PKf_ksJXk/SA...0gun%20rig.JPG


and so that its said..

apparently carrying concealed is ok..

http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum51/

but if we ever get that far in conversation with a peace officer I guess it shall be gunplay either way
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