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Old 08-06-2018, 09:17 PM
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Default Interesting Library Find for Unit Info

Came across this big book today while doing some Twilight 1964 research at the National Guard Association of the United States library. Cover below. It's called the "Reserve Components Troop Basis of the Army: Annex I Army National Guard Unit Program"

It's a big book and I didn't have time to scan everything (Only 140 pages after deleting bad scans off my phone). Here's the 33rd Infantry Brigade, 45th Infantry Brigade, and 107th Armored Cavalry Regiment though, as they were in March of 1989, in case that's of interest to anybody. (Mostly I grabbed Engineer, Aviation, and MP units to flesh out my copy of the NATO 1989 OOB).













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found https://archive.org/details/DTIC_ADA051381 for 1971 when I googled Reserve Components Troop Basis of the Army but that was a great find (hard to find the pre-war (1997) ng units well listed). I have always started with the units that existed in 1989 (largest size of most countries prior to the end of the Cold War).
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Yeah, I usually use the 1989 NATO ORBAT as my starting point. They also had the 1990 and 1991 listings but I stuck with the '89 for that reason. Had hoped to turn up other years on the DTIC site or Archives but no luck. I plan to go back to do the divisional units/more separate brigades next time.
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Was not the 33rd Infantry Brigade part of the 41st Division?
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In game, yes.
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Excellent find !!! Do you think that they have that digitized ?
I was also wondering if they listed the late 80ís CAPSTONE missions for the formations.
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Not that I've found. As Comanche pointed out there's a 1971 edition online, but I haven't found the 1988 or 1989 one from DTIC or Internet Archive. The National Guard Association Library doesn't have it digitized and it's too large for them to do. At some point I'm going back to try and get the rest of it.

As for CAPSTONE missions, this is pure force numbers and unit locations. It doesn't even have links between numbered companies and co-located battalion HQs unfortunately. I've drawn some supposition for my working OOB (for example, the Topographic Battalion HQ, Topographic Company, and 22 Terrain Analysis platoons all located in Alabama are probably associated together) but there isn't any in the actual document itself.

Brigade: A History lists all the known divisional/roundout brigade matches but I don't think that's what you're looking for. (First page of Chapter 7 if it is though https://www.armyupress.army.mil/Port...e-AHistory.pdf )

xx. 1203rd Engineer Battalion (Topographic Terrain Analysis): Dothan, AL
a) Headquarters & Headquarters Company – Dothan, AL
b) 1204th Engineer Co (Topographic) – Slocomb, AL
c) 1314th Engineer Det (Platoon HQ) – Headland, AL
i) 1303rd Engineer Det (Terrain Analysis)
ii) 1304th Engineer Det (Terrain Analysis)
iii) 1305th Engineer Det (Terrain Analysis)
iv) 1306th Engineer Det (Terrain Analysis)
v) 1001st Engineer Det (Terrain Analysis)
vi) 1002nd Engineer Det (Terrain Analysis)
vii) 1003rd Engineer Det (Terrain Analysis)
viii) 1004th Engineer Det (Terrain Analysis)
ix) 1005th Engineer Det (Terrain Analysis)
d) 1315th Engineer Det (Platoon HQ) – New Brockton, AL
i) 1307th Engineer Det (Terrain Analysis)
ii) 1308th Engineer Det (Terrain Analysis)
iii) 1309th Engineer Det (Terrain Analysis)
iv) 1310th Engineer Det (Terrain Analysis)
v) 1311th Engineer Det (Terrain Analysis)
vi) 1006th Engineer Det (Terrain Analysis)
vii) 1007th Engineer Det (Terrain Analysis)
viii) 1008th Engineer Det (Terrain Analysis)
ix) 1009th Engineer Det (Terrain Analysis)
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