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Old 02-07-2017, 07:11 PM
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Not sure where this came from? not sure if it is movie prop or something the the US Army was testing.

Are those AGM-114 Hellfire or AGM-65 Maverick missiles?
ArmySGT's right. There is no CLU (command/launch guidance unit) in the system, and firing the missiles from that truck would blow ALL of the windows out. I'd say it's photoshopped too.
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Old 02-12-2017, 04:59 PM
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Not sure where this came from? not sure if it is movie prop or something the the US Army was testing.

Are those AGM-114 Hellfire or AGM-65 Maverick missiles?
Hellfire: The Swedes use a ground mount version of it for various things.

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Hellfire: The Swedes use a ground mount version of it for various things.
Primarily an anti-ship missile, as the RBS 17. It's a modified (by Bofors) AGM-114A. The intent was to use them against landing craft to allow longer-ranged weapons to focus on other ships. The warhead was modified for this role, detonating after penetration of the hull, so it wouldn't be as effective in an anti-vehicular role. Norway had some as well (I don't know if they still do).
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Hellfire: The Swedes use a ground mount version of it for various things.
How is it targeted.
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How is it targeted.
Laser designation. Except for the Longbow variant (AGM-114L, which is radar-guided), all Hellfires are laser-guided. The designator does not have to be at the same location as the launcher; as long as the missile can see the dot, it'll go for it. This also gives it limited re-targeting capability, since if the dot is moved to a different target within the field of view, the missile will steer accordingly.
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Old 02-14-2017, 10:02 AM
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My guess is that the pic is 9th ID HTLD. They were doing a lot of stuff with CUCVs in the mid-80s as they waited to receive HMMWVs. They had a ground launched hellfire unit. The unit expected to receive UAVs, so they used surrogate manned aircraft, which likely included laser designation capability. They also had forward lasing teams to designate targets.

The 22 meg file in the second link is worth a read. There's a terrible pic at the back that looks like a CUCV firing a Hellfire to me...

https://books.google.pl/books?id=zi3...vision&f=false

http://oai.dtic.mil/oai/oai?verb=get...fier=ADA370233
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Laser designation. Except for the Longbow variant (AGM-114L, which is radar-guided), all Hellfires are laser-guided. The designator does not have to be at the same location as the launcher; as long as the missile can see the dot, it'll go for it. This also gives it limited re-targeting capability, since if the dot is moved to a different target within the field of view, the missile will steer accordingly.
So could one designator be use to home in more than one missile into a target at once.
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Laser designation. Except for the Longbow variant (AGM-114L, which is radar-guided), all Hellfires are laser-guided. The designator does not have to be at the same location as the launcher; as long as the missile can see the dot, it'll go for it. This also gives it limited re-targeting capability, since if the dot is moved to a different target within the field of view, the missile will steer accordingly.
They never thought of making a GPS-guided version?

EDIT: Just remembered that GPS guidance doesn't work well against moving targets.
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They never thought of making a GPS-guided version?

EDIT: Just remembered that GPS guidance doesn't work well against moving targets.
That, and Hellfire only has a 5 mile range. It's less than 2 seconds from weapon release to maximum range, so you're talking about potentially very short lasing times. The shortest-ranged weapon I can think of with GPS guidance is the AGM-176 Griffin, which has ~12-15 miles of range when air-launched.
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A lot of these limited issue/experimental light vehicles could be placed in in the 9th LMD, which would still have its experimental mission by the early 1990s.

Light armor could be placed into the 82nd and light infantry units, and rumors like the Rangers having about a platoon worth of Wiesels fior testing and a single Stryker for testing could be included, along with SOCOM-type HUMWWVs and Ninja Jeeps.
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