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Not sure I follow...is it a book series named Dungeon 21?
No, that was my reference to finding the extensive Civil Defense caches dismantled in the Clinton era, these had WWII small arms so particular attention was paid to destruction. The book series was the Ashes series, "Out of the Ashes was the first. Again these are shlock, not alternate history. But inspiration comes from the most surprising things at times.
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No, that was my reference to finding the extensive Civil Defense caches dismantled in the Clinton era, these had WWII small arms so particular attention was paid to destruction. The book series was the Ashes series, "Out of the Ashes was the first. Again these are shlock, not alternate history. But inspiration comes from the most surprising things at times.
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This is the first I'd heard of the CD stocks having weapons cached. This changes the character of the situation.
.45Cultist, can you give the sources for some further detail?
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This is the first I'd heard of the CD stocks having weapons cached. This changes the character of the situation.
.45Cultist, can you give the sources for some further detail?
This was a retired GM in Federal Law Enforcement. And They might have rolled old COG sites in with CD. I know some CD personnel were issued side arms, but long arms? He has cancer via Ranch Hand and is frequently in pain that morphine can't suppress.
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This was a retired GM in Federal Law Enforcement. And They might have rolled old COG sites in with CD. I know some CD personnel were issued side arms, but long arms? He has cancer via Ranch Hand and is frequently in pain that morphine can't suppress.
At least some COG sites definitely had weaponry. I remember reading about when Greenbrier was revealed, the government ended up removing M-16s and M-60s from the site. I haven't heard of any with WW2 weapons, though.
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At least some COG sites definitely had weaponry. I remember reading about when Greenbrier was revealed, the government ended up removing M-16s and M-60s from the site. I haven't heard of any with WW2 weapons, though.
Early CD(1950's) received surplus WWII gear, a lot of it. That was the "salad days" for CD equipment.

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London does have some tunnels that could flood; there are special doors fitted near the Thames in case of emergency.

Also, there is a considerable difference between the oldest sub-surface lines (District, Circle, Hammersmith & City, Metropolitan) with main line size double-tracked tunnels and the deep level lines with smaller single bore tunnels.
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The security at Iron Mountain is HEAVY. At least 8 PA120 certified officers per shift (That I actually saw, there could be more) with M4's and M9's. They also have helmets and ESAPI vests in the guard house and wear Level3A vests normally. They have the FULL ECM suit (chemical, radiological, metal detectors, and bomb dogs) for trucks and personnel entering the facility. It is manned EVERY DAY of the year (including Christmas) and all of the guard houses are fully armored to NIJ Level 4 (according to the window glass UL stickers).

There was a cache of small arms and demo (enough for one large demolition or a dozen small demos) to equip about a Battalion of MPs inside the COG storage site. I swapped the ammo there. There was also food (T-Rations "the family-sized mre," and MREs themselves) and durable medical supplies (bandages, slings, etc...) for about two weeks as well. There were 4 Hummers and 4 5-Tons too. I was told that this was ONE OF MANY COG caches in case of Nuclear War.
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