kato13
09-10-2008, 05:04 AM
Mohoender 08-13-2008, 05:33 AM I don't know if anyone paied attention to the chernobyl area recently but it has become interesting. Actually it tends to prove that many assumption made in twilight 2000 (about people farming contaminated lands might be true) and that we might have overestimated the impact of radiation on a given area.
Actually the restricted zone around chernobyl is bristling with wildlife. Man left it and you can find all kind of animals (wolves, bears, deers...) that seem to be well and fit (world scientists seem kind of lost and puzzled). Of course we don't know what the result on the long term will be but i found it interesting to get the fact to your attention. No doubts that you will have more sickness..., but, still, the area can support life and, therefore, human life (even close to the reactor as it seems).
I'll be glad to here your comments on that.
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Mohoender 08-13-2008, 07:51 AM I suggest you visit this sites:
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/04/0426_060426_chernobyl.html
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4923342.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6946210.stm
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/06/07/AR2007060701315.html
There are many other sites on the subject, have a good day in contaminated areas
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marvin 08-13-2008, 08:17 AM Mohoender - It was great of you to post articles from both side of the argument concerning Chernobyl.
I tend to side with the accident site is a wildlife haven side. As the the one study shows mutations have occurred and the natural mortality rate for animals has increased, but even more importantly the removal of human pressures have more than made up for this. Now that the first burst of very high radiation levels has died down, most casualties are in the new borne populations, not animals of breeding age. With out human hunters and continued habitat loss it is possible for these animals to have many more off-spring overall, thus more than compensating for a higher infant mortality.
In my T2K world it is the regions around the irradiated craters that swarm with wildlife. People are afraid to go there and even to eat the animals living there, unless very desperate. When I played 2300AD I extended this even further by having many of the most heavily hit areas remaining uninhabited wildlife sanctuaries and any efforts to rebuild the destroyed urban area occurring miles from its original pre-war location.
marvin
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TiggerCCW UK 08-13-2008, 10:35 AM Hi Mohoender, welcome to the boards. Always nice to see new faces popping up, so to speak.
Here's another interesting site on Chernobyl for you. I know I've posted the link before, but some of the new people on the board may not have come across it. Some of the photos are useful for flavour in a Twilight game.
http://www.kiddofspeed.com/
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Trailer_Park_Jawa 08-13-2008, 07:04 PM Radiation isn't the biggest threat in the T2K world. Its the collapse of society. But the fear of radiation presents great oppurtunities for game play and salvage.
Even if radiation shortens human life spans to say 40 years. Thats old enough for our species to continue to raise the next generation to a level of self-sufficiency.
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Actually the restricted zone around chernobyl is bristling with wildlife. Man left it and you can find all kind of animals (wolves, bears, deers...) that seem to be well and fit (world scientists seem kind of lost and puzzled). Of course we don't know what the result on the long term will be but i found it interesting to get the fact to your attention. No doubts that you will have more sickness..., but, still, the area can support life and, therefore, human life (even close to the reactor as it seems).
I'll be glad to here your comments on that.
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Mohoender 08-13-2008, 07:51 AM I suggest you visit this sites:
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/04/0426_060426_chernobyl.html
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4923342.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6946210.stm
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/06/07/AR2007060701315.html
There are many other sites on the subject, have a good day in contaminated areas
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marvin 08-13-2008, 08:17 AM Mohoender - It was great of you to post articles from both side of the argument concerning Chernobyl.
I tend to side with the accident site is a wildlife haven side. As the the one study shows mutations have occurred and the natural mortality rate for animals has increased, but even more importantly the removal of human pressures have more than made up for this. Now that the first burst of very high radiation levels has died down, most casualties are in the new borne populations, not animals of breeding age. With out human hunters and continued habitat loss it is possible for these animals to have many more off-spring overall, thus more than compensating for a higher infant mortality.
In my T2K world it is the regions around the irradiated craters that swarm with wildlife. People are afraid to go there and even to eat the animals living there, unless very desperate. When I played 2300AD I extended this even further by having many of the most heavily hit areas remaining uninhabited wildlife sanctuaries and any efforts to rebuild the destroyed urban area occurring miles from its original pre-war location.
marvin
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TiggerCCW UK 08-13-2008, 10:35 AM Hi Mohoender, welcome to the boards. Always nice to see new faces popping up, so to speak.
Here's another interesting site on Chernobyl for you. I know I've posted the link before, but some of the new people on the board may not have come across it. Some of the photos are useful for flavour in a Twilight game.
http://www.kiddofspeed.com/
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Trailer_Park_Jawa 08-13-2008, 07:04 PM Radiation isn't the biggest threat in the T2K world. Its the collapse of society. But the fear of radiation presents great oppurtunities for game play and salvage.
Even if radiation shortens human life spans to say 40 years. Thats old enough for our species to continue to raise the next generation to a level of self-sufficiency.
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