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Webstral
03-15-2010, 11:31 PM
The thread on USAF and USN units makes me think that we need to draw a distinction between trying to nail down general patterns in Twilight: 2000 and specific instances. What I should have said in my early replies to the speculation on the fates of USAF personnel is that in general we should expect to see the excess personnel reassigned to Army units for the reason others and I have given. However, this is not to say that in any particular locale the general rule holds true. I’ve violated the rule myself. In Silver Shogunate, the airmen at Nellis AFB form an ad hoc light motorized force. Granted, this group moves to Sacramento and is incorporated into Sixth US Army, but thus far there is nothing to say that the senior Army leadership in California doesn’t decide that the so-called Nellis Group should be kept intact and used for security missions in the Bay Area and the Central Valley. Of course, they could simply be broken up and used as individual reinforcements, too.

My point is that statements of general patterns are not meant to stifle anyone’s creativity. Conversely, we as creative writers should not feel the need to create an overarching rule in order to have our fun with a particular scenario. My work is an example of creating an exception to the overall pattern for the sake of telling a good story. The US Coast Guard is supposed to be almost completely absorbed into the US Navy structure in 2000; yet, I have written a scenario in which a substantial enclave of the USCG controls a portion of New England—in violation of canon, no less. Some of the other possibilities mentioned in the USAF and USN thread, such as a USAF SF squadron (or wing) with gun trucks acting as it own combat element or a naval infantry battalion, would make for very interesting reading. I continue to maintain that there is little overall logic to maintaining separate USAF and/or USN formations doing the job of the Army/Marines infantry or MPs while incorporating civilian replacements and foreign troops into the Army. Nevertheless, circumstances in a particular location can develop their own logic. The Joint Chiefs or theater commanders don’t have to give a local solution their premeditated blessing for circumstances to result in a naval infantry battalion.

Webstral

kato13
03-15-2010, 11:56 PM
All very good points. Everything posted here should encourage creativity and never stifle it.

headquarters
03-16-2010, 02:57 AM
All very good points. Everything posted here should encourage creativity and never stifle it.

I do admire the canonites for all their hard research and thouroughness - the game is certainly more interesting for it .

Taking your own approach can give interesting settings as well .

Us squareheads being non-canon heretics but we have a researched backdrop with a rationale for the events taking place.

To quote chairman Mao - "let a thousand flowers blossom"

This of course was a ruse to lure out the non believers abnd have them sent to reeducation camps :D

pmulcahy11b
03-16-2010, 03:11 AM
This of course was a ruse to lure out the non believers abnd have them sent to reeducation camps :D

Hmmm...a T2K re-education camp...wonder what that would be like...would it be run by former GDW employees...Loren may have to buckle his swash...or was that Frank...

Webstral
03-16-2010, 03:19 AM
You know, I'd love to hear some feedback on the material we've generated from the Twilight: 2000 creators.

Webstral

pmulcahy11b
03-16-2010, 03:42 AM
You know, I'd love to hear some feedback on the material we've generated from the Twilight: 2000 creators.

Webstral

So would I! We haven't heard from them in close to a decade, but Frank Frey and Loren Wiseman both used to post to the boards that were there back then.

kato13
03-16-2010, 04:05 AM
You know, I'd love to hear some feedback on the material we've generated from the Twilight: 2000 creators.

Webstral

As would I. I think when I first contacted them this forum had not achieved critical mass (Rpghost had just died). I will try again soon now that we seem to have enough material to merit a second look.

As far as comments, Frank Frey did post some pretty positive remarks about some of the work he saw in this thread
Revised CentCom OOB

Law: Excellent material. AFAIC, this replaces the original USMC OOB in the RDF Sourcebook.

Fusilier: What a great OOB! Just like Law's work AFAIC this replaces the British OOB in the Sourcebook.

From the looks of the above it seems that perhaps Mr Frey felt canon was "flexible". Unfortunately I don't have much more in the way of his posts except for this
the lions of Africa

General Pain
03-16-2010, 06:40 AM
to get the old old oldschool T2K designers in the forum ......

I'd so like to say how much their games have meant for me.

Jason Weiser
03-16-2010, 08:45 AM
I can contact Frank Frey on Facebook?

UPDATE:
Sent a message to Frank inviting him here with a link on FB.

kato13
03-16-2010, 09:29 AM
Sent a message to Frank inviting him here with a link on FB.

Cool. Well they say FB is for getting in contact with old friends.

Marc
03-16-2010, 09:37 AM
Oh! ... We must practice...We're not worthy...we're not worthy...we're not worthy...:D

kato13
03-16-2010, 09:45 AM
Oh! ... We must practice...We're not worthy...we're not worthy...we're not worthy...:D

http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2008/12/31/128751858305252842.jpg (credit to General Pain)

Jason Weiser
03-16-2010, 04:20 PM
http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2008/12/31/128751858305252842.jpg (credit to General Pain)

Well, the man says he will check it out...so let the grovel and scrape commence!

kato13
03-16-2010, 04:43 PM
Well, the man says he will check it out...so let the grovel and scrape commence!

Ok everyone, keep your sections of the forum clean, and be on your best behavior as we have guests coming. This is going to force me to update the thread map over the next few days (a good thing to do, but very time consuming)

boogiedowndonovan
03-16-2010, 06:33 PM
Hmmm...a T2K re-education camp...wonder what that would be like...would it be run by former GDW employees...Loren may have to buckle his swash...or was that Frank...

LOL,

I think it was Frank? dang, can't remember it was such a long time ago. About the same time that someone thought that Loren was female.

Legbreaker
03-16-2010, 06:59 PM
...someone thought that Loren was female.
I named my daughter Loren... :o (she is my first born)

But I knew at the time Mr Wiseman was a man. :D