Lost Battle with Wife - All My Twilight 2K Items Must Go by May 1

[javellan]

Well, I finally lost the battle with the wife and all my original Twilight 2000 stuff must go by the end of the month. If you'd like any of the below, make me an offer.

Most things are in pretty good shape as I used to collect comic books so everything is in individual mylar bags.


Original Game
Twilight: 2000 – original boxed set (1984)
Small Arms Guide
Heavy Weapons Guide
Adventure Modules
• The Last Submarine
• Howling Wilderness
• Satellite Down
• Kidnapped
• Urban Guerilla
• Gateway to the Spanish Main
• Airlords of the Ozarks
• Allegheny Uprising
• Red Star Lone Star
• Going Home (for some reason I have 2 of these...)


2nd Edition
Twilight: 2000 – 2nd edition boxed set (1990)
Twilight Encounters – boxed set
American Combat Vehicle Handbook
Soviet Combat Vehicle Handbook
Adventure Modules
• City of Angels
• Return to Warsaw


You can contact me directly through my email: javellan [at] cox [dot] net

john

[Cdnwolf]

Remember a divorce lawyer is expensive... but a runaway car just needs the cost of gas!!

[Jason]

This is the reason I hide my old RPG stuff the way most guys hide porn. :)

[sglancy12]

Well, I finally lost the battle with the wife and all my original Twilight 2000 stuff must go by the end of the month. If you'd like any of the below, make me an offer.

No fucking way!

They're your goddamn books. You can do whatever you want with them. You think she'd stand for it if you went in her closet and started telling her which of her shoes had to go? Hell no. She'd pitch a fit.

Keep the books. Sell the wife.

A. Scott Glancy, President TCCorp, dba Pagan Publishing

[Legbreaker]

At least you're offering them here and "keeping them in the family" so to speak... :(
It's a good opportunity though for Gabe The Gun to pick up a few of the modules he's missing - make it easier to string a campaign together.
If your arms being twisted and everything absolutely MUST go, I might be interested to taking one of the 2nd ed boxed sets off your hands - it's the only thing I don't have already (although I do have the components besides the box itself).

[copeab]

Given the predictable reactions to this thread, I must wonder if we are being trolled.

(Apologies if I am being far too cynical)

[pmulcahy11b]

No fucking way!

They're your goddamn books. You can do whatever you want with them. You think she'd stand for it if you went in her closet and started telling her which of her shoes had to go? Hell no. She'd pitch a fit.

Keep the books. Sell the wife.

A. Scott Glancy, President TCCorp, dba Pagan Publishing

I have to agree here -- but I've seen spouses do this sort of thing to friends of mine over and over again, and his spouse probably won't stop there. It's not about someone getting rid of a hobby the wife doesn't agree with -- it's a battle of wills, and that's not my idea of what a marriage should be.

[pmulcahy11b]

Given the predictable reactions to this thread, I must wonder if we are being trolled.

(Apologies if I am being far too cynical)

No, you may be right -- a sales pitch designed to tug at our emotions. I don't need the stuff, but the subject definitely got me steamed at the (possibly nonexistent) wife.

[Targan]

Well if the situation is for real you have my heartfelt sympathies Javellan. I gather it must be a divorce settlement situation? Because I can tell you right now, if my fiance demanded that I get rid of any of my books, RPG or otherwise, I'd tell her in no uncertain terms what she could do with her ultimatum. Any way that you could come to some arrangement with friends to sell the T2K stuff to them with the option to buy it back later?

[Legbreaker]

I can relate to some degree. My ex went so far as to actually rip up some of my books.

I'm soooooooo glad she's my ex.

[kato13]

There could be more to the story that we have been told, so I am not judging. Also I am not sure that this is a calculated move to get more attention as Ebay would be a greater exposure and probably the highest sale price.

That being said given this is a relatively anonymous situation I would only make a payment via paypal as that offers a degree of fraud protection.

[mikeo80]

I'm sorry that you have to sell your books. That stinks.

My wife knows about my RPG books. I know about her craft books. She has her hobby, I have mine. Ain't no way she tells me about my books. Ain't no way I tell her about her books. (After all, I DO want to see tomorrow. :p )

Did you have a price in mind? First one that mentions the "Price is Right" number is the winner? Or is this going to be a bidding war amongst the denizens of the site?

[jester]

If you are legit, then we can talk, on this open forum though. I am interested in the following:

Going Home
Heavy Weapons Guide
American Vehicle Guide

And if you have the Armies of the Night


Guys, I do question this, as this gent has one post. We often get similiar stories at the yahoo discussion site. I'd rather they just said they were a dealer straight up.

[kato13]

For data analysis purposes the only similar post I have found

http://www.acaeum.com/forum/post-157761.html

[Targan]

My ex went so far as to actually rip up some of my books.

And yet she lives? Sounds like shotgun-and-shovel time to me :samad:

[Targan]

For data analysis purposes the only similar post I have found

http://www.acaeum.com/forum/post-157761.html

Ah hah! Its the same guy (note "Going Home (I have 2 of these)").

[Legbreaker]

And yet she lives? Sounds like shotgun-and-shovel time to me :samad:

Australia is big....
Shovels are cheap....
Enough said....


Jester, I just so happen to have a spare 1st ed Heavy Weapons Guide plus a few other modules. I could be persuaded to part with them....

[headquarters]

I can make you an offer for these - but prof first buddy !

pics or some such .



Well, I finally lost the battle with the wife and all my original Twilight 2000 stuff must go by the end of the month. If you'd like any of the below, make me an offer.

Most things are in pretty good shape as I used to collect comic books so everything is in individual mylar bags.


Original Game
Twilight: 2000 – original boxed set (1984)
Small Arms Guide
Heavy Weapons Guide
Adventure Modules
• The Last Submarine
• Howling Wilderness
• Satellite Down
• Kidnapped
• Urban Guerilla
• Gateway to the Spanish Main
• Airlords of the Ozarks
• Allegheny Uprising
• Red Star Lone Star
• Going Home (for some reason I have 2 of these...)


2nd Edition
Twilight: 2000 – 2nd edition boxed set (1990)
Twilight Encounters – boxed set
American Combat Vehicle Handbook
Soviet Combat Vehicle Handbook
Adventure Modules
• City of Angels
• Return to Warsaw


You can contact me directly through my email: javellan [at] cox [dot] net

john

[pmulcahy11b]

Australia is big....
Shovels are cheap....
Enough said....


Jester, I just so happen to have a spare 1st ed Heavy Weapons Guide plus a few other modules. I could be persuaded to part with them....

Yep, take her for a camping trip to the Outback...

[Jason Weiser]

My wife saw the post...pitched a fit...and said "If I did that to you...I'd divorce me." She complains about the hobby from time to time, but she also realizes, it's cheaper than a lot of hobbies around...her main complaint? Lots of stuff..not as much space..but I do sell/trade stuff I don't want any more, and I do a culling every year. So, it's not as if I simply just acquire to acquire....

[javellan]

*sigh* So, we've a bunch of cynics, hunh?

Well, it's pretty simple - this Twilight stuff - along with a host of old Harn and AD&D stuff has to go because ... and she's right ... I've not actually played all this since we've got married 17 years ago and it's been just collecting dust and been carted around from apartment to apartment, house to house. Between work and travel and the kids I just don't have time (assuming some sleep once in a while).

So, it's tough to argue that I should keep this stuff and throw out things from the kids that they made - there's only so much room in a house.

Look - if no one wants the stuff, it's no biggie - it goes in the trash on May 1 (technically, I'll try to sell for "best offer" at our neighborhood garage sale first). I just thought since this was a Twilight 2K forum, might be some interested takers. I got rid of all my Harn stuff (including old campaign notes, etc.) on a Harn RPG forum so thought this was a good way to "keep it in the family."

BTW - also with some of the modules are campaign notes, old AAA maps of various areas (like the Ozarks, Atlanta, and so on), plus I think a couple of topographical maps.

If you do want any of it, let me know. Frankly, I'm pretty much willing to let it go for shipping and somewhere close to original cost. I'd prefer not to do individual stuff - that's a waste of my time constantly packaging and running back and forth to the post office (thus I'm not posting on ebay) - but if you want a handful of items, let me know and I'll send out all together.

Being trolled...*sigh*

Let me put it to you this way: I'm willing to send you the stuff - you make sure it's in acceptable condition - and THEN I'll send you an invoice via PayPal or you can pay via check.

Would someone trolling send the goods FIRST and then HOPE for payment?

I've already gotten offers of $250 for the stuff from folks who will turn around and sell it on ebay. Frankly, I'd rather all these items - and my memories - get a good home and thus I've posted here. I know, sappy, but, 'eh - what are you gonna' do....

john

javellan [at] cox [dot] net

[kato13]

The skepticism is not your fault but is born out of the realities of the internet.

I kinda figured it was a space issue, as an administrator I said I was reserving judgment, since I could not vouch for something I am still not 100% sure about (hope you understand) I actually thought your single other post was indicative of someone telling the truth. A dealer IMO would have hit many.

My books and modules are also collecting dust (and I probably only look at a PDF once a month) so I understand. I hope they find good homes. If you still have interest in the game you can just stick around a bit and read our ongoing discussions. Most of us are not playing so that is what we do.

[Targan]

*sigh* So, we've a bunch of cynics, hunh?

1. I apologise. I was indeed cynical.

2. You have my sympathies. It must hurt having to get rid of all that excellent material.

3. I saw on The Acaeum Forum the list of Harn stuff you sold. I wish I'd seen that list before you sold it all. I would have bought a bunch of your Harn stuff in a heartbeat.

4. I hope you get reasonable prices for all that stuff. Having to give it up will be doubly painful if you have to sell it for a song.

[cavtroop]

New title: Lost battle with wife. Keeping Twilight:200 stuff, one wife for sale, cheap!

;)

I have all this, or I'd be very interested...

[javellan]

I can make you an offer for these - but prof first buddy !

pics or some such .

Headquarters - this is a lot of stuff; I'm not taking pics of it all, plus you and I both know that with Photoshop and the right angle, I can make it look it's brand new in sealed poly bags signed by Loren with a kiss of approval....

Here's the deal - and I reiterate - I will send it (or whatever you want of it) to you FIRST - then you say "yeah/nay" - and then I'll send you a PayPal link for you to pay our agreed upon price.

If you don't like it - you send it back; that way both of us pay our own postage and the only one taking a risk is me.

john

[javellan]

1. I apologise. I was indeed cynical.

2. You have my sympathies. It must hurt having to get rid of all that excellent material.

3. I saw on The Acaeum Forum the list of Harn stuff you sold. I wish I'd seen that list before you sold it all. I would have bought a bunch of your Harn stuff in a heartbeat.

4. I hope you get reasonable prices for all that stuff. Having to give it up will be doubly painful if you have to sell it for a song.

Yeah - that's okay. That Harn stuff was really painful to let go - some of it I'd actually collected and never opened, especially after Robin died. But it's all in the hands of collectors now, so I know it's in a good place. *sniff*

[javellan]

The skepticism is not your fault but is born out of the realities of the internet.

I kinda figured it was a space issue, as an administrator I said I was reserving judgment, since I could not vouch for something I am still not 100% sure about (hope you understand) I actually thought your single other post was indicative of someone telling the truth. A dealer IMO would have hit many.

My books and modules are also collecting dust (and I probably only look at a PDF once a month) so I understand. I hope they find good homes. If you still have interest in the game you can just stick around a bit and read our ongoing discussions. Most of us are not playing so that is what we do.

That's okay - you did right. I was where you were about 9 years ago when we moved again (for work), and between commuting an hour each way and growing kids and a new house, I just didn't even have time for reading forums or downloading a PDF or two - could barely keep up with old gaming buddies via email and such. Finally, it just makes sense now. I'd thought I'd keep it and introduce the kids to it, but, frankly they're so into PS3 and Wii and online gaming - it just doesn't have close to the appeal to them that it did to me (which, given that my video gaming choices at that age were Pong and Pac-man - I get it).

[javellan]

My wife saw the post...pitched a fit...and said "If I did that to you...I'd divorce me." She complains about the hobby from time to time, but she also realizes, it's cheaper than a lot of hobbies around...her main complaint? Lots of stuff..not as much space..but I do sell/trade stuff I don't want any more, and I do a culling every year. So, it's not as if I simply just acquire to acquire....

Yeah, I confess - I just couldn't bring myself to get rid of these things. I mean, my gosh, I've got the old Traveller game posted on the other Acaeum forum that still has the packing slip in it because I could never find anyone to play the game with - and yet, it was so cool I couldn't just get rid of it.... You've got more discipline. Could've used your advice about 9-10 years ago.....

[rcaf_777]

My Wife just complains about this forum, only from time to time, she shares here complaints with sister law (Canadian Army Wife) and we in turn complain about them complaining about the forum, they stop complain when agree to watch the kids while we post stuff, they go shopping so it's win win

[pmulcahy11b]

I still have all my D&D stuff packed away -- and it's been 30+ years since I played D&D. For whatever reason, I still get some of the new 4E stuff -- knowing I'll probably never use it.

My name is Paul, and I'm an RPG addict...

[Gabe The Gun]

Good thing is MY girlfriend has no problem with me gaming, I am very fortunate to have found her although it might have had something to do with my 17 CHA. She likes to get in on me n the fellas games when we board or card game such as Flying Buffalos Nuclear War(GREAT GAME!) On the other hand I have left quite a few in the dirt and never looked back no matter how hot they mite be if they have any kind of problem with my Fri and Sats being booked for RPGing.
And I love D&D, we have a game going on Sats. My Twilight game will be run on Fri and Sats that not all the D&Ders show up. We are playing 4th ed D&D rite now and are at 22nd lvl and I cant wait for this game to be done with so we can return back to the REAL D&D.....in my opinion 3.5.

[mikeo80]

I still have all my D&D stuff packed away -- and it's been 30+ years since I played D&D. For whatever reason, I still get some of the new 4E stuff -- knowing I'll probably never use it.

My name is Paul, and I'm an RPG addict...

I understand completely. I still have Morrow Project from the 80's. Still buying Morrow. Original Traveler, D&D, Starfire and Starfleet Battles.

My name is Mike, and I'm an RPG addict.

[Webstral]

Good thing is MY girlfriend has no problem with me gaming, I am very fortunate to have found her although it might have had something to do with my 17 CHA. She likes to get in on me n the fellas games when we board or card game such as Flying Buffalos Nuclear War(GREAT GAME!) On the other hand I have left quite a few in the dirt and never looked back no matter how hot they mite be if they have any kind of problem with my Fri and Sats being booked for RPGing.
And I love D&D, we have a game going on Sats. My Twilight game will be run on Fri and Sats that not all the D&Ders show up. We are playing 4th ed D&D rite now and are at 22nd lvl and I cant wait for this game to be done with so we can return back to the REAL D&D.....in my opinion 3.5.

It's important to find someone who accepts you for who you are, not who she'd like you to be. My wife understands my writing habit and tolerates the Military Channel as cheerfully as could be expected. However, she does draw the line when I call my son "our little Ranger".

Webstral

[Jason Weiser]

Yeah, I confess - I just couldn't bring myself to get rid of these things. I mean, my gosh, I've got the old Traveller game posted on the other Acaeum forum that still has the packing slip in it because I could never find anyone to play the game with - and yet, it was so cool I couldn't just get rid of it.... You've got more discipline. Could've used your advice about 9-10 years ago.....

Uh....

I wouldn't say that....

***Looks guiltily at his miniatures armies, his gigundus Battletech, Traveller and GURPS collections (Might cull some of the GURPS 3rd ed, but a lot of it's in such bad shape, it's probably going in der trash), but the Twilight 2000 and 2300 stuff stays...Heck, my said "You get rid of the Twilight 2000 stuff. I'll KNOW something's gone horribly wrong."

[Raellus]

Hmmm. I wonder if Javellan would have posted here if he knew this would turn into an RPG player's support group.:p

I'd like a paper and ink version of Going Home. Too bad I can't order a-la carte.:(

I haven't really tried to get my wife into gaming. She enjoys reading young adult fiction (sci-fi and fantasy) so I could probably get her into something like D&D or Traveller but I think T2K may be a little too dark and gritty for her. One of the reasons I like T2K so much is because it is so grounded in history and reality.

[jimbo4795]

I understand completely. I still have Morrow Project from the 80's. Still buying Morrow. Original Traveler, D&D, Starfire and Starfleet Battles.

My name is Mike, and I'm an RPG addict.

Hi Paul and Mike. The first step is always admitting your addiction.;)

[Legbreaker]

....I cant wait for this game to be done with so we can return back to the REAL D&D.....in my opinion 3.5.

HERETIC! :schuss:

The only REAL version is 1st ed!

[boogiedowndonovan]

HERETIC! :schuss:

The only REAL verision is 1st ed!

word! There is only one version of D and D...1st edition.

[mikeo80]

HERETIC! :schuss:

The only REAL verision is 1st ed!

SAY IT BROTHER!!!!

1st edition has always been my favorite. :tank:

Getting to fourth or fifth level MENT something!

I finally turned off of D&D when I went to play a game with a fifth level character I had SWEATED blood to get there. Many an enjoyable gaming session over a couple of years. Only to run into a kid who had a twentyth level something after six months of playing.

[Jason Weiser]

Funny me...I never really got into D and D...Twilight 2000 WAS my first RPG after an abortive attempt to get into D and D. That branched into 2300 and MegaTraveller. But Twilight 2000? It was the first.

[Cdnwolf]

So whats still available?

I still have somewhere... the Blackmoor Original from D & D

[pmulcahy11b]

So whats still available?

I still have somewhere... the Blackmoor Original from D & D

You just had to show that -- it's a sore point with me. It was in one of the two boxed that the Army lost when shipping my goods home after I retired. The boxes primarily contained books; they gave me a lousy $50 to compensate my loss -- it would take more like $2000 to replace all of it! But I didn't have a detailed list of every single item, every book and game title that was in each one of those boxes.

:(

[pmulcahy11b]

word! There is only one version of D and D...1st edition.

Remember the thrill of having your first character ever to reach second level?:cool: You felt like you just conquered the world. That was back when getting out of 1st level was hard.

[Raellus]

Funny me...I never really got into D and D...Twilight 2000 WAS my first RPG after an abortive attempt to get into D and D. That branched into 2300 and MegaTraveller. But Twilight 2000? It was the first.

Same here but Twilight 2000 is my first and only. It must be true love.

[mikeo80]

So whats still available?

I still have somewhere... the Blackmoor Original from D & D

Man that brings back a lot of memories.....

Back in the day when swash would be buckled...

When men were men and we acted like men....(Burb, belch, pizza being eaten, beer being swilled)

Now I have GOT to find where the frick frack I stored my old D&D....I have not seen it in MANY a day....but it's here....somewhere....(Frantic opening of boxes, rusling of papers, storage shed being gone through....)

[pmulcahy11b]

Maybe the thread title should read, "Lost Battle with Twilight 2K -- Wife Must go by May 1."

[Targan]

HERETIC! :schuss:

The only REAL verision is 1st ed!

Agreed. Well AD&D anyways. The original Basic/Expert/Masters etc was what I played first but then along came AD&D where RACE AND CLASS WERE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS!!! I never looked back.

[Snake Eyes]

I guess I'm lucky in that I managed to find a significant other willing to tolerate (if not outright participate in) my nerdity. We spent all weekend together geeking out @ WonderCon. I guess it helps that she was an animation and illustration major. The only time it really causes any friction is when my teetering piles of crap escape the den and spread to the bedroom, dining room, or living room - usually when I'm working on something "big" that requires lots of reference materials. I only get away with a couple days of that before she's warming up the shredder.

[headquarters]

That might have come across as a bit rude demanding proof etc .Just that nobody likes to be taken for a fool, ey ?

Your way of doing it sounds great ,but I wish you would send me a ball park figure on what you want for the 2nd ed stuff -by PM if you would.Or post here -maybe it will incite a bidding war ( with katos blessing if so should be given ).

As for my own thrustworthyness -
I give you my word as an officer and a gentleman.

[kato13]

Your way of doing it sounds great ,but I wish you would send me a ball park figure on what you want for the 2nd ed stuff -by PM if you would.Or post here -maybe it will incite a bidding war ( with katos blessing if so should be given ).


PMs or email are probably best. International shipping might increase complication and expense so the highest bid might not actually make the most financial sense. Heck if someone is in the neighborhood he might take half the offer just to get it over and done with.

A private decision on these types of issues might prevent someone from feeling unfairly treated.

[javellan]

I'm sorry that you have to sell your books. That stinks.

My wife knows about my RPG books. I know about her craft books. She has her hobby, I have mine. Ain't no way she tells me about my books. Ain't no way I tell her about her books. (After all, I DO want to see tomorrow. :p )

Did you have a price in mind? First one that mentions the "Price is Right" number is the winner? Or is this going to be a bidding war amongst the denizens of the site?

No, I'm not into bidding wars - that's ebay. I just want the stuff off my hands and to be reimbursed for a decent price close to original cost. First good price gets the stuff.

Example: one of the guys on the Acaeum forum paid me .94 on the original dollar plus shipping (e.g., if a module cost $10 originally, he paid me $9.40 + shipping). To me, that's better than the dumpster and it makes it worth my time to package up and take to the post office, stand in line, etc., and hope I get paid. So, away went the stuff.

[javellan]

If you are legit, then we can talk, on this open forum though. I am interested in the following:

Going Home
Heavy Weapons Guide
American Vehicle Guide

And if you have the Armies of the Night


Guys, I do question this, as this gent has one post. We often get similiar stories at the yahoo discussion site. I'd rather they just said they were a dealer straight up.


*sigh* Google search, term "Twilight 2000 forum," this forum pops up in top 3.

As to me being a dealer.... As I said, I'll send you the stuff first - then you pay if you like, return if you don't. Find me a dealer anywhere on planet Earth with terms like that. Just one.

Well, the minimum I think to make my time to do the packaging, etc., is .86 on the original cost plus shipping (so far I've pretty much used the priority mail boxes because they're the easiest for me). I'm assuming something around $25+shipping for those 3 is fair. If you know better, let me know.

And no, I don't have the Armies of Night one - never heard of it.

[javellan]

For data analysis purposes the only similar post I have found

http://www.acaeum.com/forum/post-157761.html

Hey, that's me! Like I said yesterday, I had good luck with that so I figured I'd post here. And yes, all the folks who already got all the *good* stuff (according to them), will definitely tell you I'm no dealer.

I can tell you who the dealers are there, though.....

john