Hardcore Game

[LAW0306]

I will be starting a Hardcore game in the Spring of 2011. I will be doing alot of work for this in advance background and other wise. I will be putting this together and will hire a GM to manage this while its run. will be using rpol.net as host.

The unit will be A co 3d Battalion 172 infantry Regiment VT National Guard. The game will follow this unit from mobilization to combat in norway and into Germany then beyond. Character will play themselfs as they would fit into the united states army of the third world war. so if you were a regular army guy at the time you would be that rank in the guard and would just have left active service for the civilian world. If you are a school teacher in say london or perth then you would be a school teacher in vermont with 1 term of NG service. this would allow people from all over the world to come and play and express there thought of a character. this would make no munchkins and make this a very realistic hardcore game....


Myself I would have a term of active service...1992-1996 with then transfering to NG working a civie job until war starts. I was a united states Marine so I will equate this to being a member of 101st div,82nd div or 10th Mountian and since i served in combat would find a unit that did from the army at this time 10th mountian .....somalia....and so on. If you are interested in playing a year from now contact me I will send updates and info....


Once again this will be a hard core game no female pattons that are medical officers that speak six langauges and have six blackbelts and are also part time sinpers and forward observers....

[cavtroop]

Wow - sounds interesting, sign me up for the updates.

US Army 19D - Cavalry Scout 1990-92 active, 93 - 98 in the NG. 8th Infantry Div, 1st Armored Div and the 26th ID (MAARNG).

What version? 1, 2, 2013?

[Legbreaker]

Once again this will be a hard core game no female pattons that are medical officers that speak six langauges and have six blackbelts and are also part time sinpers and forward observers....

And yet the character you're referring to was rolled up according to the rules by an earlier player....
FYI it's only four languages and although very skilled in unarmed combat, her weapons abilities leave a bit to be desired.

[kato13]

And yet the character you're referring to was rolled up according to the rules by an earlier player....
FYI it's only four languages and although very skilled in unarmed combat, her weapons abilities leave a bit to be desired.

All that matters is that it is not something he wants in his game.
His game his decision, it is that simple.

[Legbreaker]

Of course it is, nobody is saying otherwise.

[LAW0306]

No one needs your comments Leg. Try to be cool for once in your life. I left this board and all others because of people like you... dont make me think twice about this choice to come back. People that are close to me told me this place was cleaned up.... I'm back three miniutes and I get sniped? I was laying ground rules for a game and not talking to you. so please dont talk too me. I here for recreation not a gun fight.... I do that in my day job.

[kato13]

Any more off board stuff coming onto my forum and I am going to add each of you to each other's ignore list. Maybe you guys should each consider doing that.

[StainlessSteelCynic]

Try to be cool for once in your life.
This should be applied in both directions
I here for recreation not a gun fight.
So are we all, needless antagonism is going to spoil it for everybody, not just the people involved in the discussion

[copeab]

I will be starting a Hardcore game in the Spring of 2011. I will be doing alot of work for this in advance background and other wise. I will be putting this together and will hire a GM to manage this while its run. will be using rpol.net as host.


Good luck with the game, but I think waiting a year for it to start is too long. Anything could happen in a year and likely many who volunteer now will be unavailable by then. I strongly suggest you don't recruit more than three months in advance.

[LAW0306]

man i'm the coolest cat you know. I post some rules for a game and i get sniped? he is the one sending needless antagonism towards me. I love you guys that sit behind your computers and talk tough... Kato I will be back in a year...........I have better things to do. anyone needs to contact me send a message to chico........I will run the game in the spring all are welcome to play.



COPEAD just wanted to send out a warning order.... I want this to be a solid project with enough material to last a while not some flash in the pan game thats over to a month with 20 posts. there is too much of that now. I want something solid people can enjoy.

[kato13]

Good luck with the game, but I think waiting a year for it to start is too long. Anything could happen in a year and likely many who volunteer now will be unavailable by then. I strongly suggest you don't recruit more than three months in advance.

He might not be around then. Law PM me if you want me to bump this at some point in the future.

[copeab]

He might not be around then. Law PM me if you want me to bump this at some point in the future.

Ah, saw a post of his in another thread, now I think I understand the one year delay. Yeah, probably would be a good a idea to bump the thread later.

[Legbreaker]

Any more off board stuff coming onto my forum and I am going to add each of you to each other's ignore list. Maybe you guys should each consider doing that.

I'm quite happy to take the high ground here and ignore the needling and veiled (and not so veiled) insults.
I can only hope I'm not alone in doing so.

[kato13]

I'm quite happy to take the high ground here and ignore the needling and veiled (and not so veiled) insults.
I can only hope I'm not alone in doing so.

You didn't ignore this post. I personally would have had no idea it even related to you unless you drew attention to it.

You are still on thin ice with me and every time you act all innocent while trying to drive away posters, I consider just walking away and perhaps pulling the plug on the whole thing. Would that make you happy.

[Targan]

Aww c'mon guys. We've seen enough bad blood on this forum. I think it would be a good idea to keep personal antagonistic comments to PMs. Then the rest of us can stay blissfully unaware of it. This forum is one of the places I retreat to when the rest of my little patch of the world is getting me down. I don't want posts here getting me down as well.

Lets all try to be cool and get along huh?

[jester]

So James dropped off the face of the earth before because of petting bitching? Lovely, has he done so again because of it? I'll say it plain, that is chickenshit on the part of the snipers. Mods, that's unsat.

[boogiedowndonovan]

Aww c'mon guys. We've seen enough bad blood on this forum. I think it would be a good idea to keep personal antagonistic comments to PMs. Then the rest of us can stay blissfully unaware of it. This forum is one of the places I retreat to when the rest of my little patch of the world is getting me down. I don't want posts here getting me down as well.

Lets all try to be cool and get along huh?

yeah, what Targan said.

lets all be cool people!

by the way, the concept sounds interesting. what system will you use?

[Gabe The Gun]

LOVE LOVE LOVE HAPPY HAPPY HAPPY.......cant we all just get along?

[Mahatatain]

LAW0306 - am I correct that the game you're setting up is "Twilight: 2013, Escape from Kosovo" on RPOL.net? Assuming that I'm right I've read some of your stuff already and the game looks very interesting and detailed.

Either way I'm interested in knowing more about your game but as someone who is British and who's military experience is nothing more than Army Cadets as a teenager I'm not sure how a version of myself is feasible as a player character?

[Snake Eyes]

"Twilight: 2013, Escape from Kosovo" on RPOL.net? Assuming that I'm right I've read some of your stuff already and the game looks very interesting and detailed.

That's Max (http://forum.juhlin.com/member.php?u=94)'s game. Presently on hold.

[pmulcahy11b]

Either way I'm interested in knowing more about your game but as someone who is British and who's military experience is nothing more than Army Cadets as a teenager I'm not sure how a version of myself is feasible as a player character?

I've always wondered, what is a "Cadet" in the British use of the word? It sounds kind of like Junior ROTC in the US.

[Mahatatain]

Ah - ok - thanks for correcting me.

They both mention the same NG unit so I made an (incorrect) assumption.

[perardua]

I have no idea what JROTC entails, but as a former Air Cadet, it's best described as being similar to a Scout group but supported by the military.
For example, as an Air Cadet I learnt about principles of flight, had the opportunity to fly light aircraft and gliders provided by the RAF at Air Experience Flights and Volunteer Gliding Schools, undertook leadership and instructional courses run by the Army and RAF to teach other cadets, learnt fieldcraft, did lots of sports, shot with Lee Enfields rechambered to .22 and the 5.56mm L98A1 (a bolt action version of the L85, lacking flash suppressor and with a different set of iron sights), and basically just played soldiers from the age of 13 to 18.

The websites for the three main cadet groups are here:
http://www.armycadets.com/home/
http://www.raf.mod.uk/aircadets/
http://seacadets.ms-sc.org/

The different services give different levels of support to the cadet organisations, but all recognise that they are an excellent recruiting tool and help to raise awareness of the military among young people, as well as present it in a positive light.

[pmulcahy11b]

Thanks, Peradua, for the links. It is about the same as JROTC, except that JROTC is more an optional extracurricular course in at the high school level in the US. We used to train some JROTC cadets in the National Guard, and occasionally the regular college-level ROTC cadets will train JROTC cadets. So they also get a lot of support from the military. I think the US military also supports JROTC because they're more likely to go on to military, police, or public service careers than the average high school student. It also helps that that a JROTC graduate will enter the military with an extra stripe on his collar, or enter regular ROTC as a sophomore instead of a freshman cadet.

[perardua]

Ah, it is very similar then. No career boosts for former cadets in the UK forces though.

[StainlessSteelCynic]

The difference between the British Commonwealth countries 'cadets' and the ROTC though is that the cadet unit is closer in ideas and concept to the JROTC program in the US.
There is no onus on the military to recognize the cadet training although it is seen by the military as a field for potential recruits.
From what I understand of it, the ROTC program is specifically to train college students for commisioning into the military as junior officers and there is no similar program in most Commonwealth countries.

[perardua]

The closest equivalent to ROTC as opposed to JROTC would be the Officer Training Corps, University Air Squadrons and University Royal Naval Units. These can provide reserve commissions, but there is no requirement to serve in the military (unless at university on a forces bursary). In fact, in broad outline and goals, they are near identical to the ROTC programme as far as I can tell. However, someone gaining a commission though OTC, UAS or URNU would still have to go through the full regular commissioning course at the relevant service academy if they became a regular officer.

[pmulcahy11b]

Boy, that's hardcore -- having to go to Sandhurst on top of an officer training program...that's like going to West Point on top of going ROTC...

When you get a commission through ROTC, only the top 20% of graduates get Regular Army commissions -- the rest get Reserve commissions. The Army can basically keep you on Active Duty as long as they're happy with you (to a minimum of two years), though after six years of combined Regular Army and Reserve Duty, you're considered to have completed your commitment. If you get a Regular Army commission you're obligated for six years. West Point, Annapolis, and Air Force Academy commissions are all Regular Army or other military commissions. OCS commissions are similar to ROTC commissions.

If an officer is not picked up at any point in his career for retention as an officer, he theoretically has the option of enlisting in the military as at a rank from E-5 to E-7 (depending upon his previous rank level). I've only met one soldier who ever did that -- one of my friends in the Army, Sergeant Gerry Rubenzer, who enlisted as a scout after deciding that being an ICBM missile launch officer in the Air Force was not for him. (He told me he didn't like the politics of being an officer, and he left the Air Force as a 1st lieutenant.) That could be an interesting T2K background for a player.

[pmulcahy11b]

I know you can't answer me right now, Law -- but I apologize for the thread-jack. Maybe if this discussion I started goes much further, it could be split off into a different thread?

[General Pain]

Aww c'mon guys. We've seen enough bad blood on this forum. I think it would be a good idea to keep personal antagonistic comments to PMs. Then the rest of us can stay blissfully unaware of it. This forum is one of the places I retreat to when the rest of my little patch of the world is getting me down. I don't want posts here getting me down as well.

Lets all try to be cool and get along huh?

Totally agree