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Abbott Shaull
06-09-2010, 09:51 PM
Does anyone have TO&E for either West German Panzer or Panzergrenadier Divisions? From 1984 up to the fall of the Berlin Wall.

Also how was the Territorial Units set up too. Were they like the reserve of the Army?

Thank you in advance.

Abbott

Adm.Lee
06-10-2010, 11:48 AM
I can go look in my old GDW wargames, ca.1985, but not right now.

boogiedowndonovan
06-10-2010, 01:22 PM
There are a few good threads on this over at tank-net.org

You might want to check out the revised 1989 NATO order of battle which contains the orbat of the German army including the Territorial army. Its up to version 8 now.

http://208.84.116.223/forums/index.php?showtopic=20414&st=680

direct link to the NATO order of battle
http://www.microarmormayhem.com/NATO_ORDER_OF_BATTLE_mod_8.doc

its very thorough.

German Territorial army is similar to the National Guard or Reserves and was under German command. Separate units, not necessarily to round out or reinforce the Bundeswher or active army. A few Territorial army units worked very closely with active army units, for example one of the Heimatshutz regiments worked very closely with 6th Panzergrenadier Division.

Here is a link to the thread on the Bundeswher orbat circa 1989, lots of detail, most of the info has been incorporated in the NATO order of battle mentioned above.

http://208.84.116.223/forums/index.php?showtopic=24760&st=700

In the Bundeswher thread, one of the contributors also complied all the information into a pdf. Its in German, but you can get the idea.

http://www.microarmormayhem.com/BW_Territorials.pdf

Adm.Lee
06-10-2010, 08:59 PM
OK, that beats what I have in detail and volume. I dug up my old Assault series games, and could get at both Third World War and NATO (VG)

Abbott Shaull
06-11-2010, 07:24 AM
thanks

boogiedowndonovan
06-15-2010, 02:41 PM
OK, that beats what I have in detail and volume. I dug up my old Assault series games, and could get at both Third World War and NATO (VG)


post what you got anyways? Wasn't the Assault series geared towards the 1990's(more relevant for T2k)