Coconut Grenades

[Canadian Army]

I found this conversion the other day on the MythBusters forum: http://community.discovery.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/6761919888/m/98319245001

This got me thinking that Coconut Grenades make a nice improvised weapon for Twilight 2000. But I'm have a little trouble figuring out the damage a black powder fill coconut would do. I figure that there would be no fragmentation, because the coconut would probable disintegrate once the black powder when off. But the rest I'm drawing a blank on.

[cavtroop]

I found this conversion the other day on the MythBusters forum: http://community.discovery.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/6761919888/m/98319245001

This got me thinking that Coconut Grenades make a nice improvised weapon for Twilight 2000. But I'm have a little trouble figuring out the damage a black powder fill coconut would do. I figure that there would be no fragmentation, because the coconut would probable disintegrate once the black powder when off. But the rest I'm drawing a blank on.

fill it with black powder, nuts, bolts, screws, ball bearings, anything you can find. Or, wrap the outside with thin wire. Instant grenade!

[HorseSoldier]

I found this conversion the other day on the MythBusters forum: http://community.discovery.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/6761919888/m/98319245001

This got me thinking that Coconut Grenades make a nice improvised weapon for Twilight 2000. But I'm have a little trouble figuring out the damage a black powder fill coconut would do. I figure that there would be no fragmentation, because the coconut would probable disintegrate once the black powder when off. But the rest I'm drawing a blank on.

Two approaches -- one, treat them as concussion grenades.

Two -- figure out the average internal volume of a coconut, then figure out the net explosive weight of that amount of blackpowder, and proceed as above, only with the stats perhaps slightly tweaked.

[WallShadow]

Two approaches -- one, treat them as concussion grenades.

Two -- figure out the average internal volume of a coconut, then figure out the net explosive weight of that amount of blackpowder, and proceed as above, only with the stats perhaps slightly tweaked.

Next you'll be asking about the airspeed of a laden African swallow...

[Legbreaker]

I'd think sun baked clay wrapped around an explosive filler and impregnated with shrapnel would be MUCH easier than using coconuts.
Or if you've got some sticks of dynamite and gaffer tape, just tape the shrapnel to the explosive, throw in a detonator and some method of activating it and you're done.

[rcaf_777]

but you and run down to the super market and find them I mean who going to take Coconut when your looting the super makret, they are too hard to break open, the only two people I can think that would want them is the professor from Gilligan's Island or the somebody doing remake of Quest for the Holly Grail

[Canadian Army]

but you and run down to the super market and find them I mean who going to take Coconut when your looting the super makret, they are too hard to break open, the only two people I can think that would want them is the professor from Gilligan's Island or the somebody doing remake of Quest for the Holly Grail

The professor is who they are for, I'm adding them to his gear.

[pmulcahy11b]

Next you'll be asking about the airspeed of a laden African swallow...

Isn't that an unladen African Swallow?

[TiggerCCW UK]

Are you suggesting coconuts migrate?

[James Langham]

Are you suggesting coconuts migrate?

Maybe we could use swallows to deliver the grenades?

[pmulcahy11b]

Maybe we could use swallows to deliver the grenades?

European or African?

[Sanjuro]

I bet the OP wasn't expecting the Spanish Inquisition...

[dragoon500ly]

Just get an extra large size can of Dinty Moore's Beef Stew, tape a blasting cap to one end, light the fuze and throw. The target gets plastered by sharpnel as well as one of the deadliest known chemical weapons....

A can of that stuff got spilled on a friend's driveway, the stain is still visible five months later....nasty, really nasty!

[Legbreaker]

Take one new roll of barbed wire on a spool, stuff a dozen sticks of Comp B inside, throw in some det cord and electrical detonator, stand back about 500 metres and let rip when the enemy infantry attack.
Think 360 degree claymore times 100.

:cool:

[TiggerCCW UK]

Take one new roll of barbed wire on a spool, stuff a dozen sticks of Comp B inside, throw in some det cord and electrical detonator, stand back about 500 metres and let rip when the enemy infantry attack.
Think 360 degree claymore times 100.

:cool:

Nasty :-)

[Legbreaker]

You have no idea just how nasty...

:D

Now think about having one of them spaced every few dozen metres....
:firedevil

[WallShadow]

You have no idea just how nasty...

:D

Now think about having one of them spaced every few dozen metres....
:firedevil

Just to gild the lily:
Make it rusty old barbed wire, and make sure you dump your latrine cans on it every night.:rolleyes:

[Legbreaker]

The key to this working is having TIGHT rolls. Unfortunately used wire can't be rolled back up tightly enough by hand and the resulting air gaps are too large to get the best effect. New rolls are definitely best.
http://www.southernwire.com.au/sites/southernwirecomau/assets/public/Image/Product%20Content/BarbedWire.jpg Yes, that really is a LOT of shrapnel!

[Sanjuro]

I haven't seen them in some years, but I believe soap flakes are still available; urban legend says that soap flakes in a Molotov Cocktail stick to the skin to make a basic form of napalm.
Of course, in T2k, a Molotov Cocktail is a difficult thing to find anyway...

[dragoon500ly]

In its simpliest form, the Molotov is nothing more than a glass bottle, 2/3 filled with gasoline and with a strip of bicycle inner tube stuffed inside and then capped and a gas-soaked rag wrapped around and lit.

The inner tube starts to break down inside the gas and helps the gas to stick in place.

Cup of Tide works just as well.

[pmulcahy11b]

Every time I see "Coconut Grenades," I think of Gilligan's Island...

[Legbreaker]

Gasoline and polyurethane (the petroleum dissolves the plastic) mixed together makes a great home made napalm. Don't know if it would gum up a flamethrower, but it's DAMN sticky!

[pmulcahy11b]

Gasoline and dish soap make a pretty sticky concoction too. Take an ammo can, fill it with the gasoline and dish soap concoction, close it up, put a thermite grenade on top -- it's called a Ranger Cocktail. Though you can use anything to thicken the gasoline, even body wastes.

[dragoon500ly]

Only downside to dish soap is that it isn't always available, at least in the field, on the other hand, it is always possible to get bars of GI soap, a couple of sharp knives, a couple of Privates with time on their hands.......you can get all the soap flakes you need.

[Legbreaker]

I still like the idea of melting some farmers irrigation pipes in a drum of fuel. :P
One soldier comes along with a stick every so often to give it a stir. Hope they're not a smoker....

[pmulcahy11b]

Another thing they taught us for thickening a Ranger Cocktail is MRE food -- apparently the binders they use in the food are pretty effective in such a case.

[dragoon500ly]

That's the...errr...beauty of "Improvised Munitions"....there are ten thousand plus devious ways out of inflicting a lot of pain and suffering onto the enemy...

LOL, wanna bet Homeland Security is going nuts over this forum? :p

[Legbreaker]

And I haven't even started talking about improvised fuses and detonators, let alone the lovely fun that is booby traps! :D

[pmulcahy11b]

LOL, wanna bet Homeland Security is going nuts over this forum? :p

I'll bet they already know who we are and have checked this board out.

[Panther Al]

That's the...errr...beauty of "Improvised Munitions"....there are ten thousand plus devious ways out of inflicting a lot of pain and suffering onto the enemy...

LOL, wanna bet Homeland Security is going nuts over this forum? :p

Reason number one why I am not adding all the fun ways to cause mayhem and destruction. :) I'm already on the list - why give reason to move up it? ;)

[Legbreaker]

I'm in another country and waaaaay out of their jurisdiction. :P

[dragoon500ly]

LOL, keep thinking that...DHS is sort of like cockroaches...they are everywhere and they just won't die, no matter how much Raid you use! :rolleyes:

[Legbreaker]

Cockroaches don't need Raid, they require 00 buckshot! :p

[dragoon500ly]

LOL...the tree roaches down here in Mississippi damn near require anti-tank weapons in order to kill them...and they are large enough to carry their own and shoot back!

The only real grip I have with DHS is that every time I fly to a shooting tournment, I have to point to my red tags and say "That is my weapon, this is my gun, that is for killing and this is for fun!" Them pat downs get awfully personal!!

:D

[Legbreaker]

Just as an aside, a couple of years back when the security checks were starting to get bumped up a bit over here a bag of mine had the explosives wand waved over it.
The bag was one I'd had from the army and was it's purpose was to give the soldier somewhere to store the gear they didn't need in their webbing or pack - a set of civilian clothes, extra toiletries and so on with access about once every couple of weeks. It was never supposed to come close to weapons, ammo etc. In the time I'd had it (15+ years) not once had some much as a blank round come into contact with it, and I'd run it through the washing machine at least half a dozen times.

It tested positive.
:eek: