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Matt W
08-21-2011, 09:24 AM
Dragoon500ly listed his version of a Trade Pack And I suspect that this could be worth a discussion thread in its own right

How often is the "canon" Trade Pack used? Like everyone else, I modify things

My additions:

1. books- all reprinted to be small enough to fit in a shirt pocket

Ranger Handbook
Ditch Medicine: Advanced Field Procedures For Emergencies
Where There Is No Dentist by Murray Dickson
Where There Is No Doctor by David Werner (Village Healthcare handbook)
Back to Basics: A Complete Guide to Traditional Skills
Medicinal Plants of North America: A Field Guide by Jim Meuninck

2. luxuries

Tabasco sauce
Belgian Chocolate
( http://www.starbrook-airlines.com/products/tinflowpacks.htm )

3. tools

Magnifying glass
pack of 10 disposable scalpels
duct tape

mikeo80
08-21-2011, 10:08 AM
These are some of the things that I have thrown into trade packs.

1) Magnesium Fire Starters

2) 10 feet of thin wire. (Good for setting traps for small critters. Amazing what a rabbit can add to the taste of the local soup)

3) Bottles with 100 count water purification tabs.

4) 100 round boxes of .22 LR (Best round for small game hunting IMHO)

5) One pound containers of salt.

6) Saw this happen only one time, but boy did it make a hit with the local trading community, one of those 10-20 spice rack things with full bottles.

My $0.02

Mike

ArmySGT.
08-21-2011, 11:58 AM
Wouldn't there really be call for two types of Trade packs? One of necessities and one of luxuries?

dragoon500ly
08-21-2011, 04:53 PM
I went with the low-end and high-end trade packs and they turned out to be more trouble than its worth.

So I went back to a single trade pack with a variety of items. The intent is a variety of "common" goods that mind wind up in short supply, at least locally, in play, the first contact pack is used, with a selection of trade goods rounding out the load.

Seems to work in my ftf games.

ArmySGT.
08-25-2011, 09:19 PM
I just would not like to see the trade pack turned into the "portable hole" concept.

It is a finite resource, and one meant to introduce a Team into a Community not buy it out right.

I think the contention in the contents would come between Bruce and the Council. Bruce would have the experience but, the Council will know business.

natehale1971
08-26-2011, 04:03 PM
In my games there are three types of Trade Packs... One of necessities, one of luxuries (and pogie bait) and the one that has a mix of both types of goods.

The necessities trade pack contains a lot of Health and Comfort Packs. Especially those for women (you know for their monthly visitor).

ArmySGT.
08-26-2011, 06:46 PM
Trade Pack "Canon"

Pack, carrying, weight combined 15kg 1
Coins, Gold, Double Eagle, 50
Dollars, Silver 50
Liquor, One Liter 6
Tobacco
Candy
Kit, Sewing 6
Mirror 4
Comb 6
Brush 6
Kit, toilet, personal
Knife 6
gear, fishing


Seems sparse, leans toward luxury items, and as a spending account for the Team really.

I think we can come up with better.

ArmySGT.
08-26-2011, 07:03 PM
"Contact Pack"
Hat, Felt, floppy "crusher", white in color 1
Bandana, Neckercheif, Red 1
Jacket, Denim, "Levis" 1
Shirt, Work, Cotton Flannel, Plaid in color 2
Boots, Hiking, Leather, "Kastinger" 1 Pair
Belt, Leather 1
Socks, Wool 4 Pair
Pack, Nylon 1
Pack, Nylon (contents listed)
Candles
Twine
Food, Canned 1 Days ration 3
Underwear
Pack and personal items, assorted
Flask, Hip, containing Scotch 12 oz
Revolver, M-29, Cal. .44 magnum w/ 6 1/2 bbl 1
Holster, Leather 1
Cartridge, .44 Magnum 50

Either
Carbine, Marlin 1894, Cal. 44 Magnum 1
Cartridge, .44 Magnum 30

Shotgun, Remington 870, 12 Guage 1
Shell, 12 Guage 30


See what I see? No fire starting, no way to cook, and nothing to sleep in or under.

Smart NPCs would realize it is a costume. My get a PC lynched if they thought he was a scout for a raiding party.

kato13
08-27-2011, 12:45 AM
I was working on several trade kits but I finished the 4 below.

Trade Kit, Field

Assembly Weight: 9.53 kg

Assembly Volume: 0.53 cu. ft.



Contents:

Bag, Heavy duty Canvas 13"x13"x5" (1)

-Bouillon cubes pack of 12 (10)

-Chocolate Bars (Heat Resistant) 8 oz (8)

-Coin, Gold,One 1/4 Ounce (20)

-Coin, Gold,One Ounce (10)

-Coin, Silver,One Ounce (20)

-Currency, US 20 dollar bill (50)

-Food bar BP5 100g (460 calories), pack of 5 (2)

-Mini Alcohol Bottles (1.7oz 50ml) (10)

-Pack of Gum (10 sticks) (20)

-Salt/Peper Shakers .4 oz salt .17 Oz pepper (10)

-Sewing Kit, Small (5)

--Case, Canvas, zipper 1x2x3" (1)

---Button, BDU Olive Drab. (6)

---Safety Pin, Large (2)

---Safety Pins, Medium (2)

---Safety Pins, Small (4)

---Scissors, Mini, Folding (1)

---Sewing Needle, Heavy Duty, Large (4)

---Sewing Needle, Heavy Duty, Medium (4)

---Sewing Needle, Heavy Duty, Small (2)

---Thimble (1)

---Thread w/bobbin, Black, 45 yards (1)

---Thread w/bobbin, Olive Drab, 45 yards (1)

---Thread w/bobbin,White, 45 yards (1)

-Soap,Small Bar 1.5oz (15)

-Toothbrush (10)

-Tube toothpaste 6.5 oz (5)




Trade Kit, Bulk

Assembly Weight: 111.1 kg

Assembly Volume: 4.45 cu. ft.



Contents:

Crate, Wooden, Reinforced 24 x 20 x 16" Colapsable (1)

-Cigarettes, carton of 200 (30)

-Cuban Cigars (100)

-Fishing Kit, Survival (10)

--Case, Aluminum, Small Case (1)

---Assembly Assorted hooks/spinners (12/6) (1)

---Assembly Assorted needles (8) (1)

---Booklet - Fishing Instruction (1)

---Card - Knot and Hitch Instructions (1)

---Cloth, Red Cotton 1 1/2"x1" (1)

---Cloth, Yellow Cotton 1 1/2"x1" (1)

---Fishing Line, Monofil 50ft 18lb (1)

---Fishing Line, Monofil 50ft 63lb (1)

---Hook, Fishing, Treble (2)

---Leader Packet (6 assorted) (1)

---Lure, Large Spoon, Red and White (1)

---Lure, Large Spoon, Silver (1)

---Safety Pin, Large (8)

---Single Edged Razor Blade (1)

---Small Spoon Lure, Silver (1)

---Straight Shank Hooks Size 9/10 (2)

-Hand Crank Radio(AM/FM)/LED Flashlight (10)

-Kinfe, Hunting (10)

-Leatherman tool (Pliers) (20)

-Medical Kit, Personal (10)

--Bag, Nylon 5x5x4" Camo (1)

---Antibiotics +/- (Oral 1 unit in Foil Pack) (8)

---Antiseptic gel 100ml bottle (1)

---Bandage, Adhesive 3/4 X 3 inches flesh (10)

---Bandage, Compress (100x180mm) (1)

---Bandage, Gauze, 25mm x 4m, elastic,non-sterile (1)

---Bandage, Triangular, 136 x 96 x 96 cm (1)

---Bandages, Butterfly (10)

---Blister Pads 62x25mm (2)

---Blister Pads 70x48mm (2)

---Gloves, Latex Exam (non sterile) (4)

---Instant Cold Pack (small) (1)

---Magnifying lens, plastic (1)

---Mild Pain reliever plastic bottle,100 units (ibuprofen) (1)

---Mild Sedative bottle 25 units (1)

---Pad, Alcohol (4)

---Safety Pin, Large (4)

---Scissors, Mayo, 15.5 cm, straight (1)

---Stimulant (Oral 1 unit in Foil Pack) (8)

---Tape, Paper Adhesive 1"x30' roll (25mm X9.2M) (1)

---Tweezers (1)

-Pump Flashlight, LED (10)

-Tobacco, 1/4 kilogram tins (20)



Trade Kit, Food, Luxury

Assembly Weight: 73.01 kg

Assembly Volume: 6.67 cu. ft.



Contents:

Crate, Wooden, Reinforced 36 x 20 x 16" (1)

-Bottle, Bourbon (750ml) (4)

-Bottle, Scotch (750ml) (4)

-Bottle, Vodka (750ml) (4)

-Bottle, Whiskey (750ml) (4)

-Bottle, Wine, Red (750ml) (4)

-Brewers yeast, 2oz pack (10)

-Canned Butter. Long term storage 12 oz (4)

-Coffee beans, 1/2 kilogram packs (20)

-Dehydrated milk1/2 kilogram bag (20)

-Sugar Cubes (pack of 50) (20)

-Tea 1/2 kilogram packs (20)






Trade Kit, Cloth

Assembly Weight: 69.6 kg

Assembly Volume: 5.27 cu. ft.



Contents:

Crate, Wooden, Reinforced 38 x 20 x 12" (1)

-Fabric, Canvas, Heavy, White Square Yard (18 oz) (40)

-Fabric, Denim, Blue, Square Yard (14 oz) (40)

-Fabric, Nylon, Ripstop, Blue Square Yard (40)

-Sewing Kit, Small (10)

--Case, Canvas, zipper 1x2x3" (1)

---Button, BDU Olive Drab. (6)

---Safety Pin, Large (2)

---Safety Pins, Medium (2)

---Safety Pins, Small (4)

---Scissors, Mini, Folding (1)

---Sewing Needle, Heavy Duty, Large (4)

---Sewing Needle, Heavy Duty, Medium (4)

---Sewing Needle, Heavy Duty, Small (2)

---Thimble (1)

---Thread w/bobbin, Black, 45 yards (1)

---Thread w/bobbin, Olive Drab, 45 yards (1)

---Thread w/bobbin,White, 45 yards (1)

-Square yard cotton cloth (10 oz Blue) (10)

-Square yard cotton cloth (10 oz Green) (10)

-Square yard cotton cloth (10 oz Red) (10)

-Square yard cotton cloth (10 oz Tan) (10)



Text files with all 82 of my kits can be found here (i just remembered about a half dozen are empty so just move on to the next one)

http://www.juhlin.com/files/kit_txt.zip

I have more detailed listing of the kits (with more details and pictures) if anyone is interested.

ArmySGT.
09-03-2011, 08:58 PM
Text files with all 82 of my kits can be found here (i just remembered about a half dozen are empty so just move on to the next one)

http://www.juhlin.com/files/kit_txt.zip

I have more detailed listing of the kits (with more details and pictures) if anyone is interested.

I have transcribed them all to a Excel 2010 file.

Would you like me to share them here?

kato13
09-05-2011, 04:07 PM
I have transcribed them all to a Excel 2010 file.

Would you like me to share them here?

Sure feel free to post your file. I am sure it is smaller than my current archive of kits (20+ MB). The following has all my kits in TXT/RTF/XLS and HTML
http://rapidshare.com/files/236001641/project_kits_all_formats.zip (21MB)

The large file size comes from having pics for every element within every kit (for the html versions).