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boogiedowndonovan
11-15-2012, 01:56 PM
Not sure if this has been talked about before

Operation East Wind

you can play cold war gone hot soldier with airsoft guns substituting for real firearms and the D-day adventure park in Oklahoma substituting for Germany.

http://www.operationeastwind.com/

You can play East German, Soviet, US, UK, West German and it looks like some Canadians will be joining according to the forum.

The Rifleman
11-17-2012, 09:26 AM
Looks like it was a lot of fun. I'd bet that most of the 30-50 year olds in this forum could have banded togething into one or two platoons and smoked them. After all, they may be playing it, but we LIVED it.

Panther Al
11-17-2012, 04:04 PM
*hehs*


Thats exactly what I was thinking - and my father who was stationed in berlin just laughed at some of those pics.



But that being said.... it does look like fun.

The Rifleman
11-17-2012, 07:13 PM
I'd agree. The WWII armor and trucks were more like the 50s then the 80s. Bet he did laugh! But the kids doing this would have no clue. The tankers, cav scouts and infantrymen in here would run them ragged by using brains, not legs.

On a serious note, I am a company commander now. 10 years of the "war on terror" and the soldiers aren't used to fighting like we did. Besides myself, top and a handful of E-7s and E-6s with 20 or so years in, its a real pain trying to teach everyone thats joined since 2001 about radio listening silence, cammo nets and so on. They think war is living on the FOB and getting hot chow and skype home everynight.

Targan
11-17-2012, 08:59 PM
I'm amazed at how cheap the rates are for those Operation East Wind events. Most of the time I'm not in the slightest bit jealous of people living in the US but this is one of the exceptions :D

The Rifleman
11-17-2012, 09:02 PM
You're right. $160 probably covers the gas, food and pellets. I'd bet those guys are pretty much doing it for fun.

Panther Al
11-18-2012, 01:28 AM
I'd agree. The WWII armor and trucks were more like the 50s then the 80s. Bet he did laugh! But the kids doing this would have no clue. The tankers, cav scouts and infantrymen in here would run them ragged by using brains, not legs.

On a serious note, I am a company commander now. 10 years of the "war on terror" and the soldiers aren't used to fighting like we did. Besides myself, top and a handful of E-7s and E-6s with 20 or so years in, its a real pain trying to teach everyone thats joined since 2001 about radio listening silence, cammo nets and so on. They think war is living on the FOB and getting hot chow and skype home everynight.

You know, the first troop commander I had in my old unit was a total idiot (He forbid us from taking more than three mags and *any* grenades with us on patrol in those nice calm places like... fallujah... in order not to upset the locals nor would he allow us to order more ammo for the same reasons) but one thing he did do right, perhaps the only, is he was big on making sure we didn't forget the basics of mech on mech. He made sure back in the world that we trained not only on COIN, but for the Gap as well.

The Rifleman
11-18-2012, 06:55 AM
You know, the first troop commander I had in my old unit was a total idiot (He forbid us from taking more than three mags and *any* grenades with us on patrol in those nice calm places like... fallujah... in order not to upset the locals nor would he allow us to order more ammo for the same reasons) but one thing he did do right, perhaps the only, is he was big on making sure we didn't forget the basics of mech on mech. He made sure back in the world that we trained not only on COIN, but for the Gap as well.

That was one good point. The kids need to remember how to fight. I think part of that too is that the cav by nature trains in screening operations. Then again, some of our mechanics and cooks have been years without doing their jobs.

I never went that far west of baghdad. But I did get shot at alot in sadar city. I let my platoon break the rules all the time. We never drove in the right hand lane, doing 45 and so on lol

HorseSoldier
11-18-2012, 12:03 PM
I'm not an airsoft guy, but that looks like a pretty cool event, even if the armor is dinosaur age stuff even for a late 80s scenario. Obviously they don't have access to newer stuff, but I wonder how many BTRs, BMPs, and BRDMs are floating around in the US today. I saw an episode of "Tank Restoration" or somesuch on Netflix where a guy was restoring a BMP-1 out in Utah that he'd purchased from someone in the UK, if I remember right.

The Rifleman
11-18-2012, 01:22 PM
I bet there are a few around, but I'd say its next to impossible to get them. The shipping costs would make the tickets a lot more pricy then $160. I don't like how airsoft functions, but they do look pretty neat.

boogiedowndonovan
11-19-2012, 02:20 PM
next East Wind is March 9-17, 2013

Don't like airsoft?

How about this?

http://www.tru-combat.com/

AR-15's, blanks and MILES gear

rcaf_777
11-22-2012, 11:14 AM
but we LIVED it.

Yes "I lived" I sat in FOB in Afghanstian and made sure the troops got paid

The Rifleman
11-25-2012, 03:40 PM
Yes "I lived" I sat in FOB in Afghanstian and made sure the troops got paid

I did my time at a FOB too. But I also lived through the cold war years. Training was a lot harder. There was no ice cream in the DFAC and there was no beds to sleep in. Regardless, the troops do need to get paid.