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Tegyrius
12-02-2013, 04:55 PM
Can anyone direct me to a list of the MOS equivalents used by the Commonwealth of Nations' militaries - particularly the British or Australian Armies? I'm mainly looking for the names used to describe the jobs and specialties with which we're already familiar. Thanks!

(Non-T2k project, so modern will be more useful than Cold War era.)

- C.

Cdnwolf
12-02-2013, 06:45 PM
Can always start here

http://www.army.mod.uk/rolefinder/

Targan
12-02-2013, 06:59 PM
Not a nice clean list but I think most of the info is there for Australian Army roles: http://www.defencejobs.gov.au/army/

Tegyrius
12-02-2013, 07:15 PM
Awesome. Thank you, gentlemen!

- C.

StainlessSteelCynic
12-02-2013, 08:15 PM
I reckon it's going to be a case of matching the broad MOS to the Australian Army job description. This is all pretty much from memory so hopefully Targan and Legbreaker can fill the holes and correct my faults.

We were patterned on the British Army system and so before the 2000s we didn't use an MOS style listing system as such. I don't think anything has changed in that regard.
The Australian system works via "Roles/Employment" and "Qualifications" and they tend to be less about specialization than the US system is and more about cross-training. Within those Roles, you may have one to several "Tasks".
For example, soldiers in an Infantry Platoon are all expected to know how to operate and maintain every weapon used within the Platoon, so even the most junior Private* should be able to take on the Task of machine gunner or grenadier if necessary. So that Private may be Roled as an Infantryman but Tasked as a rifleman and then a machine gunner and then back to a rifleman as the Section Leader needs.
* assuming he's done his Initial Employment Training for Infantry

These Roles and Qualifications are not linked directly to Rank for the most part but they do increase your pay level.
I don't think anything has changed much, just the general structure of the operating units.
We also don't have the OR/NCO Rank breakdowns that the US does, in the main you're either (for example) a Private or a senior Private, Sergeant or senior Sergeant etc. etc. with whatever Role, Qualifications and Tasks you may have. Rank is also not as much of an indicator of how long you have served compared to the US system. For example, a Private with several years of service may have all the qualifications for promotion to Corporal but if there are no Corporal positions available within his unit, he will not get the promotion but he will be in line when a slot becomes available. But for all that time he will be a Private, a senior Private for sure but other than that there's no other distinctions made.

By way of an example, at one point when I was in, my Employment/Role was "soldier"** in an Infantry Platoon and I was a Qualified infantry soldier with additional Qualifications as assault trooper and SFMG although through that time I was Tasked as scout, senior scout, rifle group leader, machine gunner and finally gun group leader.

A little clarification is in order for that part;
Squad equivalent in the Australian Army is the Section.
An Infantry Section from about the 1960s but prior to the 2000s consisted of approximately 10 soldiers broken down into the following groups: -
Scout/Command -two scouts (Privates) and the Section Leader (usually a Corporal)
Gun group - machine gunner, gunner's assistant, Section 2IC (usually a Lance Corporal)
Rifle group - four soldiers* commanded by a senior Private who was also the grenadier (M79 or M203).
* sometimes three and sometimes five or six depending on the strength of the parent Company and it's role.

Edit: 4th Dec 2013
** Going back through some of my notebooks from back in the day, the Employment/Role was "Rifleman" and not simply the generic "soldier"

pmulcahy11b
12-02-2013, 09:21 PM
This could lead to (more) PC Generation rules that are specific to countries.