if you could have any vehicle

[LT. Ox]

Ok this is intended as a thread for those that would like to have an in game vehicle.
I am thinking that is should have several qualities. It should also be in the realm of reality (ok your reality).
Mine is somewhat ala Kelly’s Hero’s and Donald Southerland, I am reminded of his traveling Sherman gypsy band.
I would like the LAV-25 C and C sans com gear. Keep the attached tent and some of the goodies.
Modify the MAG mount to a Ma –deuce. It has a lot of good things, for a Marine ride, it swims without a lot of trouble getting in or out of the pool. It has the typical multifuel engine, quick release trailer hitch and you have firing ports and good hatch arrangement.
Nice fuel consumption and storage amount and ROOM. Ok it has a high profile and the armor is not the best and you need to have a portable anti-tank weapon (I kinda like that idea thou).

all in all my pick

[StainlessSteelCynic]

I'm inclined to go for a wheeled vehicle to cut down on maintenance and scavenging for appropriate track links but I wouldn't immediately discount the M113 series (being almost ubiquitous across NATO, getting spares wouldn't be so much of a drama).

I have personal liking for the German TPz1 Fuchs, doesn't have much in the way of armament (typically just one or two 7.62mmN MG3 MGs) and while it can mount a Milan firing post, it requires the operator to be halfway out the hatch to do so.
A lot of British and US troops would be familiar with it from time in Germany and/or the issue of the derivative M93 Fox NBC recce vehicle.
But it is amphibious, will carry up to 10 troopies and can travel up to 800km on a full tank of diesel. Also, it's also much quieter than similar vehicles.

Failing that, I have a soft spot for an older British vehicle, the FV 1103 Leyland Martian, 10-ton, 6x6 artillery tractor.
It ain't fast, it ain't pretty, it runs on petrol with a really crap mileage (1.24kpl/3.5mpg) at a top speed (on road) of 56kmh/35mph and it's big (well, huge would be a better description) but it has a 12-man cab, a 10-ton winch, very good ground clearance and will tow a load of 8000kg/17,600lbs and it just looks interesting (to me anyway!)

FV1103 Leyland Martian Medium Artillery Tractor
http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc421/therealmadrat/Leyland/LeylandBobEdwards5.jpg
http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc421/therealmadrat/Leyland/LeylandQubec681.jpg
And just in case anyone thinks the guy on the bumperbar is a real short-arse, here's a pic with an SLR against the fuel tank for scale!
http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc421/therealmadrat/Leyland/LeylandBobEdwards4.jpg

All images ruthlessly pillaged from here: - http://hmvf.co.uk/forumvb/showthread.php?29704-Gallery-Leyland-Martian-Artillery-Tractor-(FV1103)-in-service-with-42nd-Regiment-RA

[Olefin]

if i had to choose - an M1 or Bradley for their ability to actually reach out and touch enemy armor - sure they also make you a target and are fuel pigs - but they give you the best chance to actually survive those chance encounters with armor that your Hummer or deuce and a half are going to be nothing but flaming debris against

[Draq]

My practical choices: m113, t-72, hmmvvw
my just because choices: bmp, obj-279, btr-152, Cadillac stingray, mi-24 hind...

[.45cultist]

Light and heavy HumVees, good old M35/M36 possibly as a gun truck. Even civilians could have an M113 or a V150, they cost in the Real World though. Saw a video from Syria which proves a T55 is not a runner up at all.

[ArmySGT.]

Westphalia Camper Van.

sleep and eat in comfort. Absolutely useless in combat, priceless as comfort on wheels....... Ridiculously common.

[mpipes]

I'ld say a M1A2, but it is such a gas guzzler, I'm not sure it would be worth the trouble. Maybe a HMMWV FSV or M3A3. There is also the LAV-75A4 or M10 on Paul's site.

[StainlessSteelCynic]

I find it more interesting to see what people would choose as vehicles than their choices for anything else in the game.
It seems to me that those players who like a general mix of play styles opt for vehicles that are multi-use (as in useful for cargo or passengers, somewhat easier on upkeep, give some level of comfort and can provide some level of protection), while those players that like more combative games go for vehicles that can "do the damage" on the enemy e.g. MICVs, MBTs, and those who seem to think in terms of rebuilding go for vehicles with a much more utilitarian function e.g. ARVs.

[.45cultist]

Westphalia Camper Van.

sleep and eat in comfort. Absolutely useless in combat, priceless as comfort on wheels....... Ridiculously common.

A T2K adventure to keep this versus refugees with looted weapons.....Hmmm.

[Legbreaker]

A T2K adventure to keep this versus refugees with looted weapons.....Hmmm.

I'll take one of these.
http://www.tankedup.com.au/promotional-vehicle-picture-video-gallery/picture-gallery/hacklabs/
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[StainlessSteelCynic]

I hope you have enough supplies to keep the mini-bar stocked!

[LT. Ox]

The Driver is on the WRONG
side!

[raketenjagdpanzer]

Light and heavy HumVees, good old M35/M36 possibly as a gun truck. Even civilians could have an M113 or a V150, they cost in the Real World though. Saw a video from Syria which proves a T55 is not a runner up at all.

Is that the one that got popped in the turret with an ATGM and tipped it's hat?

http://i.imgur.com/6G8tQJp.gif

[raketenjagdpanzer]

For civilian settings? A garbage truck. Ditch the hydraulics, do some face-hardening of available mild steel (like from dumpsters and whatnot), make it splinter and small-caliber resistant, loads of room in the back, durable as hell. Stinks to high heaven but if you clean it out and pad it out you've got a 20-passenger personnel carrier. And it absolutely has the suspension and horsepower to carry the additional armor (esp. once you ditch the hydraulics) and so on.

Military? Stryker or LAV. Possibly M113 although throwing or breaking a track would be a constant worry. If I'd established a landhold/firebase/cantonment somewhere, an Abrams or a Stingray plus a few trucks as a QRF.

[Olefin]

keeping an M1 going is definitely an exercise in finding or making a hell of a lot of fuel

we managed to obtain some from the Soviets (you would be amazed how quickly a guy driving a tanker truck full of fuel from Ploesti surrenders after the BMP and BTR escorting him get turned into flaming debris) and also by hiring ourselves out (i.e. town needing help against marauders who was very glad to exchange alcohol fuel for said marauders getting turned into assorted body parts and burning T-55 in northern Poland on our way back to Omega) as well as one very lucky series of rolls we made to find a buried tank full of diesel in what was supposed to be a destroyed oilfield/refinery complex

definitely provided a lot of opportunities for our GM with how often we ran low on fuel

[pmulcahy11b]

I'd want something that can transport a decent amount of people/stuff, has parts compatibility with a lot of vehicles already out there, can be easily modded to do something about the armor, and can have retrofitted weapon mounts. For all this, I say...

...the M577. It's a decent compromise between cargo hauler and armored vehicle. Just needs some work first.

[ArmySGT.]

I'd want something that can transport a decent amount of people/stuff, has parts compatibility with a lot of vehicles already out there, can be easily modded to do something about the armor, and can have retrofitted weapon mounts. For all this, I say...

...the M577. It's a decent compromise between cargo hauler and armored vehicle. Just needs some work first.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0567165/

[Olefin]

a gun truck can be a very good vehicle - agree with you there for sure - and considering the background it could have a very big range of possible weapons (all the way up to helicopter rocket pods if you look at what was used in Libya when they improvised mounts on trucks there)

[.45cultist]

Is that the one that got popped in the turret with an ATGM and tipped it's hat?

http://i.imgur.com/6G8tQJp.gif

Yep! Be sure to get an enhanced armor package.

[LT. Ox]

For civilian settings? A garbage truck. Ditch the hydraulics, do some face-hardening of available mild steel (like from dumpsters and whatnot), make it splinter and small-caliber resistant, loads of room in the back, durable as hell. Stinks to high heaven but if you clean it out and pad it out you've got a 20-passenger personnel carrier. And it absolutely has the suspension and horsepower to carry the additional armor (esp. once you ditch the hydraulics) and so on.

Military? Stryker or LAV. Possibly M113 although throwing or breaking a track would be a constant worry. If I'd established a landhold/firebase/cantonment somewhere, an Abrams or a Stingray plus a few trucks as a QRF.

Interesting thought. I had not really given consideration to what I might use at or around 1998 to 2000 here in the states and since I am thinking about a game in that time frame here goes;
1. An older Brinks armored van that is sitting in a junk yard somewhere and has a Restorable engine, IE pre electronic ignition.
2. Any one of the "surplus” armored cars in use by law enforcement
3. Above Garbage truck.
4. Dump truck "Diesel" mod.
5. above recreational .
Hmmm I am going to spend some more time on this.

[Olefin]

Heck if you are here in the US you could have almost anything you can think of - sheer variety of vehicles here, combined with what collectors have that is still operational (Stuart tank anyone?), means you could have just about anything - and the idea of bank armored cars being turned into APC's is one that is basically canon

they are in both the the Urban Guerilla module and A River Runs Thru It in Challenge - so having a character in a US setting start out with an armored bank car turned into an APC is completely believeable

[.45cultist]

Interesting thought. I had not really given consideration to what I might use at or around 1998 to 2000 here in the states and since I am thinking about a game in that time frame here goes;
1. An older Brinks armored van that is sitting in a junk yard somewhere and has a Restorable engine, IE pre electronic ignition.
2. Any one of the "surplus” armored cars in use by law enforcement
3. Above Garbage truck.
4. Dump truck "Diesel" mod.
5. above recreational .
Hmmm I am going to spend some more time on this.

One of the competitors to the MRAP uses garbage truck componants to ease city costs, but most get "free" MRAPs that use the more costly and rarer Family of Tactical Vehicle parts or what ever the new "M" series trucks are called.

[LT. Ox]

Back in the day I sat in on more than a few roundtable discussions with local and state Law enforcement people. (Some of them were after hours and admittedly during the relaxation period) :)
The talk was “what do we use if" I will not herein go into the ifs as they are not all politically correct.
But first among the solutions were the armored car idea, having firing ports and small arms protection and being immediately available to us (Sheriff’s Office) through state law of commandeering any private vehicle in times of emergence.
Next was a big jump in time, the National Guard equipment. Man what a mess dealing with the rules of engagement.
On down the line was the privately held military equipment. I learned just what and how good some of the stuff we have here in Western Colorado USA is!!!
Oh well memory lane. That was 1985 86.

[Ancestor]

During the Twilight War (V.1) and shortly thereafter I concur with your LAV-25. Come Howling Wilderness, however, only a Doof Wagon will suffice:

http://www.businessinsider.com/mad-max-fury-road-how-cars-were-made-2015-5

[LT. Ox]

I have not yet seen this but now I have got to.
You may get a notice from my Wife’s attorney as to intent to sue
:D

[Ancestor]

I have not yet seen this but now I have got to.
You may get a notice from my Wife’s attorney as to intent to sue
:D

I'm a judge advocate by branch so I can take it! See the movie, you will not be disappointed!

[CDAT]

I think something like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Nug5FZgxuk
Just make sure it is the unarmored version.

[rcaf_777]

Mine Picks

[LT. Ox]

I may have ta shoot you.

[.45cultist]

I may have ta shoot you.

The Weinermobile may have possibilities.....no I don't have a straight face.:p

[Olefin]

actually you could probably mount a nice light machine gun in the DeathMobile shooting out the vision slits at the top

[LT. Ox]

sneaking is right out

[pmulcahy11b]

The Weinermobile may have possibilities.....no I don't have a straight face.:p

From what I understand, it's mostly fiberglass, with little actual room inside.

[.45cultist]

From what I understand, it's mostly fiberglass, with little actual room inside.

But the Weinermobile plus OD paint equals The Green Weenee!(Sorry, I couldn't resist.....)

[LT. Ox]

But the Weinermobile plus OD paint equals The Green Weenee!(Sorry, I couldn't resist.....)

You should have. :D

[Legbreaker]

For the more devout soldier....
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[Sanjuro]

When I drove for a living I used to see this quite often...
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=cadbury%27s+creme+egg+car&view=detailv2&qpvt=cadbury%27s+creme+egg+car&id=16113DD54EA22E977BE415004B6BED8065796088&selectedIndex=2&ccid=Ac3Ov2mB&simid=608012514744469307&thid=OIP.M01cdcebf698184ebaa7483eb543ed05fH0&ajaxhist=0

[pmulcahy11b]

For the more devout soldier....
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That's a picture of a tank in the Vatican Tank Corps.

[.45cultist]

For the more devout soldier....
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Wow! That's a lot of intricate work.

[LT. Ox]

That's a picture of a tank in the Vatican Tank Corps.
That is the Vatican Tank Corps!:D

[unkated]

When I drove for a living I used to see this quite often...
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=cadbury%27s+creme+egg+car&view=detailv2&qpvt=cadbury%27s+creme+egg+car&id=16113DD54EA22E977BE415004B6BED8065796088&selectedIndex=2&ccid=Ac3Ov2mB&simid=608012514744469307&thid=OIP.M01cdcebf698184ebaa7483eb543ed05fH0&ajaxhist=0

And you could resist the urge to roll over it?

Uncle Ted

[Bullet Magnet]

For the more devout soldier....
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It presents a bit of a high profile, but it might work for camo in some urban settings.

Some ideas for use:
Mobile chapel for an armored division
The vehicle the company chaplain uses...he takes both roles, soldier and clergy, VERY seriously.
Or, for when the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch just isn't up to the task at hand, and you need something stronger.

[ArmySGT.]

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[Sanjuro]

I have thought of a problem with the vehicle I posted: having to explain to the Marauders that it is only a car, I don't have any chocolate!

[pmulcahy11b]

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What the hell is that?

[Legbreaker]

What the hell is that?

Justification for incendiary weapons.

[ArmySGT.]

What the hell is that?

Battle Meter Maids....... Do not occupy a position after being told to displace.

[LT. Ox]

Top speed is negative 12

[rcaf_777]

From what I understand, it's mostly fiberglass, with little actual room inside.

Looks big enough to me, and look the Nutmobile

[LT. Ox]

Let me see a crew of one and four fully equipped wieners.
Hell I had enough trouble with Marines just riding around on top of a M113 ain’t no way I am coming Out of a wiener!!!
:devil:

[.45cultist]

Convoy!, the cadbury eggmobiles are escorts.

[unkated]

What the hell is that?

Some from of Piaggio Ape (Bee in Italian).

Light utility trike with several sizes of Vespa engine; been around since the 1960s. Bed can manage 200-1000 kg.

Perhaps it's a Mexican verison, making it one of the Killer Bees!
http://snltranscripts.jt.org/75/pics/75ibees5.jpg


Diesel engine Piaggio Ape TM (1982)

Size: 3.39 x1.5x1.63 m
Veh Wgt: 465 kg
Small diesel engine; 15 lt tank; Fuel Consumption: 4 lt/4hr period
Cargo: 750 km

Trv Move: 130/40 km
Cbt Move: 30/10 m

Uncle Ted

[Legbreaker]

......ain’t no way I am coming Out of a wiener!!!
:devil:

Not again anyway. ;)

[pmulcahy11b]

Looks big enough to me, and look the Nutmobile

Big enough to bring your dog! (And don't start...)

[LT. Ox]

Big enough to bring your dog! (And don't start...)
So many thoughts and so many things to say and you cut me off at the.......:censored:

[Legbreaker]

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[LT. Ox]

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Err may I stand BEHIND you Sir?

[StainlessSteelCynic]

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I see your 10 barrel SPG and raise you with my landship!

http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/slycooperfanfic/images/3/36/Land_fortress,_Hugo_magz..jpg/revision/latest?cb=20130607211045

The scary thing is, these "landships" were actually proposed by some people after WW1, some were even meant to sail to where they were needed then come ashore to continue the fight.
No matter that they were utterly beyond the technology of the time... oh and utterly impractical! Supplying one of those things would be akin to a modern US super carrier, an amphibious assault ship and a WW2 battleship all rolled into one.
Talk about "arms race".

[Legbreaker]

Well the Soviets did give it a shot with their T28...

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And of course the Americans did their bit with their own T28 super heavy tank.

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[ArmySGT.]

http://drawingdatabase.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/hetzer_16.jpg

I have always liked for no real reason the Panzer 38T "Hetzer"

http://www.achtungpanzer.com/jagdpanzer-38t-hetzer.htm

[unkated]

I have also always liked the Hetzer. Something... compactly competent about it.

Hetzers were built Post WW2 by Czechoslovakia and sold to Austria as the G-13, which fielded them to the early 1970s. Some could be unearthed in a warehouse and revived in 1996/7 as reserves for the Austrian Army...

Uncle Ted

[LT. Ox]

I have also always liked the Hetzer. Something... compactly competent about it.

Hetzers were built Post WW2 by Czechoslovakia and sold to Austria as the G-13, which fielded them to the early 1970s. Some could be unearthed in a warehouse and revived in 1996/7 as reserves for the Austrian Army...

Uncle Ted

What weapons system would that have? Same as developed or would I look else where for change info?

[Legbreaker]

The Swiss also bought 158 of them which served into the 1970's, renaming them as the G-13 (any designated G-13 definitely served with the Swiss).
The Soviets regunned them with their 76.2mm but otherwise kept them basically the same.
The Czechs converted some of theirs by replacing the gun with a flame thrower, although Hitler had ordered this conversion in November 1944 so it's unknown if the Czechs did it themselves, or just picked up a few which had already been done.
From what I can see though, it doesn't look like too many other alterations were made to the armament.
There is no indication I can find of Austria having any after the war (I suspect unkated confused them with Switzerland).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hetzer
http://the.shadock.free.fr/Surviving_Hetzers_G13.pdf

[StainlessSteelCynic]

Hey Leg, don't forget the British A39 Tortoise heavy assault tank - it only weighed 79ton... only!
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b4/IWM-MH-9865-Tortoise.jpg/300px-IWM-MH-9865-Tortoise.jpg

I too am a fan for the Hetzer, like unkated mentioned, there seems to be something about it. Competent is a good word, it's no too fussy in its design, uncluttered and still compact. Unsurprisingly it was a very good ambush weapon even though the troops didn't particularly like it - too cramped.

Hey unkated, did you mean Switzerland instead of Austria?
LT. Ox, the G13 was armed with a 75mm KwK 40 main gun, the same gun as mounted on the Panzer IV late model G and H & J models as well as on the StuG III F & G models and the StuG IV. AKA the 7.5cm KwK 40. The Swiss also removed the remote MG installation from the roof and placed the commander opposite to the German Hetzer (i.e. Swiss placed commander on the left, gunner & loader on the right). The Swiss also had a field telephone installed on the rear for external comms.
They got 158 G13 assault guns as well as some recovery vehicle models.
They also modernized some of the assault guns to G13D standard which included replacing the petrol engine with a diesel model.

However the interesting item is that the Czechoslovaks fielded a large number under the designation ST-I. They were either repaired or new build Hetzers and carried the original 7.5cm KwK39 main gun or were unarmed and used as training vehicles (called the ST-III). Some of the ST-IIIs had a superstructure built on while others retained the basic lines of the Hetzer. They built/rebuilt 50 to the ST-III spec for a total of 299 vehicles (249 ST-I & 50 ST-III). The Czechoslovaks used them till the mid 1950s and not much is known about them afterwards although they are believed to have been scrapped.
For game purposes however, there's no reason why they couldn't have kept them in their war reserve.

Apparently Israel was interested in buying 60 or 70 ST-I vehicles but they were too pricey, about twice the price of a Sherman tank, so they never bothered and got Shermans instead.

Crappy photo but the only one I could find...
ST-III
http://www.aviarmor.net/tww2/photo/germany/hetzer/hetzer_st3_1.jpg

Although this drawing makes it clearer. ST-III
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41chtpJkd3L.jpg

What's intriguing though, is that apparently the Czechoslovaks exported eleven ST-I vehicles & spares to Guinea, West Africa between 1959 & 1961.

The other interesting thing about the Hetzer, it formed the basis for for the WW2 Germans' first purpose made, fully tracked, APC, the Vollkettenaufklarer 38(t) "Kätzchen" AKA full-tracked reconnaissance vehicle 38(t) "Kitten". It would carry up to 8 troops and act in a similar role as the White Scout Car (or in modern terms, an M3 Bradley CFV without the 25mm and TOW).

Kätzchen wooden mock-up showing general height.
http://www.achtungpanzer.com/images/vlkt.jpg
One of the working prototypes
http://www.aviarmor.net/tww2/photo/germany/katzhen_bmm/katzhen_bmm_6.jpg

As it probably would have looked in service
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-W10dQaL7ZdQ/UsKjlNgdVwI/AAAAAAAADU4/6w-g0YsYD-Q/s1600/DSC_0836.JPG

[StainlessSteelCynic]

Well it looks like I dawdled too long getting my reply posted!
Beaten to the punch by Legbreaker - curse you! :p

[Legbreaker]

I may have beaten you to the punch, but yours has more info - you missed the flame throwers though! :p

[unkated]

The Swiss also bought 158 of them which served into the 1970's, renaming them as the G-13 (any designated G-13 definitely served with the Swiss).
The Soviets regunned them with their 76.2mm but otherwise kept them basically the same.

Swiss (yes, I misremembered it; not Austrian; I got enthused by the Austrian 2001 Sourcebook posted in this forum) G-13s were armed with StuK 40, which is the German 7.5cm KwK40 Tank gun in a slightly different mount (same gun as that Panther discovered earlier this year).

As a T2K vehicle, it would be something like this: (hmmm should be attached)

[ArmySGT.]

Swiss (yes, I misremembered it; not Austrian; I got enthused by the Austrian 2001 Sourcebook posted in this forum) G-13s were armed with StuK 40, which is the German 7.5cm KwK40 Tank gun in a slightly different mount (same gun as that Panther discovered earlier this year).

As a T2K vehicle, it would be something like this: (hmmm should be attached)

That machinegun can be fired from under cover via a periscope and swivels 360 degrees. A smart commander doesn't let the gun go empty and clips a fresh belt onto the first before it runs out. This way the commander does not expose himself to enemy fire.

[ArmySGT.]

Anyone doing a WW2 campaign with T2k rulesets?

Twilight1939 or Twilight1941?

[unkated]

The other interesting thing about the Hetzer, it formed the basis for for the WW2 Germans' first purpose made, fully tracked, APC, the Vollkettenaufklarer 38(t) "Kätzchen" AKA full-tracked reconnaissance vehicle 38(t) "Kitten". It would carry up to 8 troops and act in a similar role as the White Scout Car (or in modern terms, an M3 Bradley CFV without the 25mm and TOW).

To be fair, the Hetzer was derived itself from the Czech Pz-38t (t = Tzech in German), developed just before Czechoslovakia was overrun and dismembered by Germany (with help from Hungary and Russia). The Germans used the Pzr 38 light tank early in the war (better armor and weapons than a Panzer 2), and kept the chassis in production and development through the war - the factories were churning them out and they worked fine.

In addition to the Hetzer, the chassis carried SP AA guns, SP artillery and SPAT (some versions of Marder). Katzchen was another derivation.

Uncle Ted

[unkated]

Anyone doing a WW2 campaign with T2k rulesets?

Twilight1939 or Twilight1941?

There was someone related to the Yahoo T2K group that was doing a Pacific WW2 campaign a while ago. I remember reading an AAR. You could probably find a link to the person there.

Uncle Ted

[StainlessSteelCynic]

To be fair, the Hetzer was derived itself from the Czech Pz-38t (t = Tzech in German), developed just before Czechoslovakia was overrun and dismembered by Germany (with help from Hungary and Russia). The Germans used the Pzr 38 light tank early in the war (better armor and weapons than a Panzer 2), and kept the chassis in production and development through the war - the factories were churning them out and they worked fine.

In addition to the Hetzer, the chassis carried SP AA guns, SP artillery and SPAT (some versions of Marder). Katzchen was another derivation.

Uncle Ted
Very similar story for the earlier LT vz35 AKA Pzr 35(t) although it never had the conversion desirability that the LT vz38 had. I reckon the Germans were probably put off by the pneumatic drive system and the engine heat getting into the crew compartment and figured it wasn't worth converting it further?
Interestingly, a British company was looking for a production licence for the vz35 just before the Germans began their occupation of Czechoslovakia. Another interesting point, there was also a variant built for Afghanistan.

[pmulcahy11b]

Anyone doing a WW2 campaign with T2k rulesets?

Twilight1939 or Twilight1941?

I posted on my PDF page a PDF of a now-defunct site someone did on WWII (and the Arab-Israeli Wars) in T2K v1 rules.

[StainlessSteelCynic]

I posted on my PDF page a PDF of a now-defunct site someone did on WWII (and the Arab-Israeli Wars) in T2K v1 rules.

Could you tell me what the name of the pdf is please Paul? I had a quick look but couldn't see anything that specifically stated WW2 or Arab-Israeli Wars. :(

[ArmySGT.]

What are the pertinent rules and formulas for building the stats for various vehicles for the V1 and 2.2 systems any way? As much as people come over here asking for stats on weapons and vehicles seems like some tutorials are I order.

[unkated]

Weapons rules are the most straight froward; the formulas used are presented in the V2 Infantry Weapons Guide, spread out across two pages.

The key values you need are

Bullet weight
Receiver type (Single shot, Bolt action, lever action, pump action, semi auto, full auto, Single action revolver, double action revolver)
Weapon weight
Weapon length
Muzzle velocity
Rate of fire (for automatic weapons)

Uncle Ted

[.45cultist]

Fire, Fusion,& Steel for Traveller the New Era has them as well.

[pmulcahy11b]

Could you tell me what the name of the pdf is please Paul? I had a quick look but couldn't see anything that specifically stated WW2 or Arab-Israeli Wars. :(

It doesn't seem I ever actually uploaded it. Damn. Give me until the morning.

[StainlessSteelCynic]

It doesn't seem I ever actually uploaded it. Damn. Give me until the morning.
:) no problem Paul, I didn't know anyone had done something on the Arab-Israeli wars so while I'm naturally curious to see the doc, it doesn't have to be "right now!" :D

[LT. Ox]

It is in his nature.:)

[unkated]

Fire, Fusion,& Steel for Traveller the New Era has them as well.

Fire Fusion & Steel has slightly different stats. Any weapon I tried to match in FFS using real world values is either 30-50% heavier (if matching capability) or is underpowered (if matching physical size, weight of weapon & projectile).

Uncle Ted

[Sanjuro]

I always liked the Universal Carrier, aka the Bren Gun Carrier.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Carrier
There are many more practical vehicles, I know...

[pmulcahy11b]

:) no problem Paul, I didn't know anyone had done something on the Arab-Israeli wars so while I'm naturally curious to see the doc, it doesn't have to be "right now!" :D

OK, it's up; but worse; I discovered that I never uploaded my last update at all!:o

[Legbreaker]

OK, it's up; but worse; I discovered that I never uploaded my last update at all!:o

I thought it had been a while - that's what brought me back here actually, looking to see if you were still in the land of the living!

[StainlessSteelCynic]

Hey Paul, my apologies for being the bearer of bad news, but the link for the WW2 pdf is not working :(

[unkated]

SPA-Viberti AS.42 Sahariana

WW2 Italian reconnaisaance car, rather like an oversized dune buggy. Used the same chassis as the AB 41 armoured car, including its four-wheel steering, specifically for desert operations, primarily in a reconnaissance role.

http://www.internetmodeler.com/2008/september/armor/italeri_sahariana_1.jpg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/23/AS42-1.gif

Fast, long-ranged, maneuverable, armed with MGs and/or 20mm autocannon, or even a 47mm cannon.

The Sahariana engine located in the rear which gave it enough space in the middle of the hull to accommodate up to five fully equipped men and weapons, though the mission crew seldom exceeded three or four. The open compartment's only overhead protection was a waterproof canvas sheet. The AS 42 had front and rear internal fuel tanks of 200 litres each with an additional 24 externally mounted jerrycans holding 80 litres of water and 400 litres of fuel.

The AS 42 Sahariana's performance was very good, but it was expensive to manufacture and the vehicle was mechanically complicated.

Seats 4-5. On of the best high-mobility vehicles produced before the HumVee. And I love the big tires.

Uncle Ted