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General Pain
01-12-2009, 05:50 AM
anyone know the name of the gass used here?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow_theater_hostage_crisis

Canadian Army
01-12-2009, 06:54 AM
According to the article; The Moscow Theatre Hostage Crisis: Incapacitants and Chemical Warfare; written by the Chemical and Biological Weapons Non-Proliferation Program.

"…Russian special police units resorted to using an incapacitating gas based on the drug fentanyl to end the crisis."

The full article can be found here: http://cns.miis.edu/stories/02110b.htm

General Pain
01-12-2009, 07:13 AM
According to the article; The Moscow Theatre Hostage Crisis: Incapacitants and Chemical Warfare; written by the Chemical and Biological Weapons Non-Proliferation Program.

"…Russian special police units resorted to using an incapacitating gas based on the drug fentanyl to end the crisis."

The full article can be found here: http://cns.miis.edu/stories/02110b.htm

I probably should have guessed it would be fentanyl-based - my dad works as a MD (anesthisia) and told me the strongest they had was remifentanil.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remifentanil

pmulcahy11b
01-12-2009, 12:26 PM
(Moved to this thread by kato13. think it was posted to the East German Thread in error)

The US tried something similar in Vietnam in the form of grenades -- it was called BZ. It was quickly rejected because the results were too unpredictable.

Grimace
01-12-2009, 02:49 PM
You'll probably never figure out exactly what it was, as the wiki article said that in July 2008 the Russians would release all information regarding the chemical in a closed session of the UN courts. So they don't want people to know what they used. Unless the UN spills it, you'll probably just get the best guesses of what people think it was.

pmulcahy11b
01-12-2009, 06:17 PM
(Moved to this thread by kato13. think it waas posted to the East German Thread in error)

The US tried something similar in Vietnam in the form of grenades -- it was called BZ. It was quickly rejected because the results were too unpredictable.

Oops! Thanks for catching it, Kato.

kato13
01-12-2009, 06:19 PM
Oops! Thanks for catching it, Kato.

Happens to me to, but I can move them with out anyone noticing (shhhhhhhhhhhhh ;) )

General Pain
01-13-2009, 04:34 AM
(Moved to this thread by kato13. think it was posted to the East German Thread in error)

The US tried something similar in Vietnam in the form of grenades -- it was called BZ. It was quickly rejected because the results were too unpredictable.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BZ_Gas

I read somewhere (on the net) that under US trials of BZ-gas people was under the influence for days after exposure

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M43_BZ_cluster_bomb
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M44_generator_cluster