About maps, plans and deck plans

[Marc]

Bon dia!!

I'm beginning this thread about maps and deck plans. I know that some of us make extensive use of Google image searcher, Google maps or Google Earth. They are excellent tools for any GM, but sometimes finding, editing or making a suitable map can be a time-consuming task. I think It would be good to have a small cache of maps already filtered by GM`s and players like us for their immediate use in our Twilight:2000 games . So, have you found/made any interesting map / deckplan to use and share? Plans of houses or military installations, deck plans of ships or planes, maps of cities and villages…

[Marc]

This one is from Close Combat game series. The number over some houses and buildings show their height in floors.

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[Marc]

Another one from Close Combat:

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[Marc]

Another one from Close Combat:

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[headquarters]

I really like this thread for any encounter you can just whip out one of these maps and off you go.

Keep em coming please.

If we had a library of these on hand to draw on ,a Gm could quicker get a chance encounter up an running .The maps are nice looking too.

[FMDeCorba]

Good looking maps for sure, for some reason its much better for the gamefeel than just some googled map IMHO:)

[Marc]

Thanks! Saint Google will provide.
The three following maps are from Close Combat series, too. I think they are specially suitable for any encounter set in a Mediterranean country. (The maps are from the Battle of the Ebro mod for Close Combat).

The outskirts of a village with a small crossing point over a river

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[Marc]

A few houses in a Mediterranean countryside.

By the way, in some maps woods are only represented with their shadows. I think it was an option from the Close Combat games to allow a clear vision of your own units.

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[Marc]

A house surrounded by broken terrain.

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[headquarters]

Thanks! Saint Google will provide.
The three following maps are from Close Combat series, too. I think they are specially suitable for any encounter set in a Mediterranean country. (The maps are from the Battle of the Ebro mod for Close Combat).

The outskirts of a village with a small crossing point over a river

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is that a rail line running parallell to the river on the left bank ? If so does it go into tunnels or is it meant to be interrupted ?

[Marc]

is that a rail line running parallell to the river on the left bank ? If so does it go into tunnels or is it meant to be interrupted ?

The village at the upper side of the map is the catalan village of Ascó, and the river is the Ebro (Ebre) .The rail line that runs parallel to the river goes into tunnels. The crossing point is a bridge made from boats (I don't know the proper english term, if anyone could inform me... :) ) by republican engineers in 1938.

[kato13]

The crossing point is a bridge made from boats (I don't know the proper english term, if anyone could inform me... :) ) by republican engineers in 1938.

The term I would use is "Pontoon Bridge"

[Marc]

The term I would use is "Pontoon Bridge"

Thanks! Mmmmmm...after all, there's not a lot of differences with the Spanish "puente de pontones" :) .

[Marc]

From Close Combat series, an industrial zone (Stalingrad?) covered in snow.

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[Marc]

Crop lands and a house, near a river.

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[Marc]

From a "shooter", but good enough for an encounter.

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[Marc]

Mmmmm... perhaps not post-apocalyptical enough. Well, change the cars for wrecks and some buildings for rubble. Or use it in Merc:2000 :)

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[Marc]

From Berlin 1945 Close Combat scenario.

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[Marc]

"Coryton was one of 13 Regional War Rooms built in 1952 to house the regional administration for Wales in the event of a devastating nuclear attack on Whitehall making central government impossible."

Original information here: http://www.subbrit.org.uk/rsg/sites/c/cardiff_coryton/index.html

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[Marc]

A fallout shelter. This map remembers me a chapter of "Brother in the Land", where survivors search and hunt the more wealthy (or lucky) people that are still living in their nuclear fallout shelters

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[TiggerCCW UK]

This map remembers me a chapter of "Brother in the Land", where survivors search and hunt the more wealthy (or lucky) people that are still living in their nuclear fallout shelters
Hunting for badgers iirc. The book reckoned they'd all be hunted out, if for no other reason than their selfishness in not sharing their fortune at having a shelter.
Subbrit is a great website,one I've recommended here in the past. Well worth a look.

[Marc]

Snow covered airport. Mmmmm, ok, there are some Ju-52 and He-111 wreckages, but just imagine they are from C-130 or An-26...:)

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[Marc]

Snow covered airport.

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[Marc]

Two versions of the Air Force 1 from two different sites. It seems probably that this plane had survived the war.

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[Marc]

I didn't know that some of them were still running. Interesting.
The two first are from the SS Jeremiah O'Brian. Simply change the museum for a cargo hold.

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The file below is another side view of a Liberty Ship, the SS. Fort Halkett. It's another side view. Although it is redundant with the other file, I find that the silhouttes of the transported vehicles are a nice detail to get a quick idea about the relative dimensions of the cargo holds:

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[Marc]

A big hangar with two planes inside (A P-3 Orion and a DC-8). Dimensions in feets.

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[Marc]

A tropical beach with trenches and observation towers. Good for its use as a landing beach.

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[Marc]

From Call of Duty. The assault and defense of the Pavlov building was one of the climatic (and hardest) scenes of the game.

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[Marc]

A snow-covered, bombed village, with a frozen river and a destroyed bridge.

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[Marc]

It seems a small russian village, with some crop fields, a river and some small craters.

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[TiggerCCW UK]

These maps are great. Where are you turning them up from? The snowy ones are looking very useful to me for the next part of my campaign - the trip to New York for Armies of the Night.

[Marc]

These maps are great. Where are you turning them up from? The snowy ones are looking very useful to me for the next part of my campaign - the trip to New York for Armies of the Night.

Ei Tigger! I suppose you're talking about the maps of the PC game Close Combat (in any of its available version). The link is:

http://www.closecombatseries.net/CCS/

There are a lot of people working about mods for these games in this site, and the maps they produce are excellent and very suitable for their use in roleplaying games, as in our case. Sometimes you can save the image directly for the gallery, but you will have to do a little research here, because in the most number of cases the gallery window switch offs itself while trying to do the "save as..." Of course, you have always the option to do a "Print Page", but I’m afraid that the lost of quality will be too much important.

[Marc]

A small village with a some destroyed houses.

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[Marc]

Interesting map, if you substitute the pair of soviets IL-2 for any present day STOL (Short take-off and landing) aircraft or any civilian light plane.

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[Marc]

Some farms near a crossroad. As always, trees represented with their shadows.
As interesting detail, a phone line that diverges in the crossoad.

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[Marc]

Ah... I think this would be a little treasure cove... A house with its own hangar!
For more information: http://www.silverwingatsandpoint.com/units_siteplan.html

Ah...there are things that only exist in the USA! :) The paradise of the aviation fans!!

Well, you don't need to situate the house in the fantastic complex of the link. Instead, a lonely, apparently deserted house with a large, leveled and abandoned area, covered now by high grass can hide the hangar of this map... An old wind indicator could be the only clue that the plain in front of the house worked like an aerodrome.

And, after all, if you put there a conventional single-engine light aircraft, like the Cessna 152, with and air cooled engine, traditional carburetor and ignition by magneto you would have less mechanical complexity than in most of the present-day cars... Nice possibility.

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[Marc]

A pair of hex-maps, useful to plan squad level operations.

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[Marc]

Partially destroyed bridge, somewhere in Central Europe.

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[Marc]

Canals and houses.

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[Marc]

A village with a straight road surrounded by organized fields.

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[Marc]

A pleasure, river bargue.

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[Marc]

Althought it is not strictly a map, it can be used in the briefing of a Merc / Twilight:2000 mission and it is easy to produce a game map from it.

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[Marc]

Railway, fields, canals and houses.

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[Marc]

Again, it's not a map. But it would be easy to produce a map from this drawing.
The interior layout is left to the GM...:D

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[Marc]

Fields woods and houses.

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[Marc]

Well... a landing zone...

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[Marc]

Nice. And equipped with a zodiac.

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[Marc]

With trenches, craters and fields.

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[Marc]

In any of the wide rivers in Central Europe.

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[Marc]

Interesting map of an Japanese American Internment map, from 1942 to 1945.

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More information here:

http://www.topazmuseum.org/

[Marc]

Another small village covered in snow, of course. :)

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[Marc]

With the look of an aerial photo, a small village with three bridges. Suitable for a quick briefing to your players.

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[Littlearmies]

Marc,
I've got CC5 - how are you saving the screenshots?

I need an idiot's guide (for obvious reasons!). I want to use one of the maps (Colomby) as basis for a wargames terrain piece.

Thanks
Malcolm

[headquarters]

Might I say that this thread is excellent -ready made and nicely done maps and aerial recce shots etc - I could whip up a nasty little encounter in 5 minutes that we could use 5 hours to play with anyone of these .

Thanks.

[Marc]

Marc,
I've got CC5 - how are you saving the screenshots?

I need an idiot's guide (for obvious reasons!). I want to use one of the maps (Colomby) as basis for a wargames terrain piece.

Thanks
Malcolm

Ei! I'm not taking screenshoots directly for the game. Great part of the maps from Close Combat Series are from the photo gallery in the link below:

http://www.closecombatseries.net/CCS/

An outstanding web with great maps, though they were not originally designed for roleplaying.

I simply choose the more suitable to use in a roleplaying session. In a few cases (the map of Berlin 1945), I've erased the banners of the original image.

I've found a map from Colomby area, but take into account that it's from a mod and not from the original game:

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The original link below, for more quality:

http://www.closecombatseries.net/CCS/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=displayimagepopup&pid=1334&fullsize=1

And here's another similar map of a norman village:

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[Marc]

Might I say that this thread is excellent -ready made and nicely done maps and aerial recce shots etc - I could whip up a nasty little encounter in 5 minutes that we could use 5 hours to play with anyone of these .

Thanks.

I'm happy to read it. :)

[Marc]

A prewar sick bay.

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[Littlearmies]

I've kind of set my heart on building the Colomby map from the game - those two look kind of flat - I wanted some elevation plus the river with bridges and fords. So far I've fiddled with it several time but can't see any way to do it.

I want to print it out so I can grid the print and match up my terrain.

Oh, well - I'm sure I'll figure something out.

Thanks
Malc

[Marc]

I've kind of set my heart on building the Colomby map from the game - those two look kind of flat - I wanted some elevation plus the river with bridges and fords. So far I've fiddled with it several time but can't see any way to do it.

I want to print it out so I can grid the print and match up my terrain.

Oh, well - I'm sure I'll figure something out.

Thanks
Malc

Mmmm... interesting. What wargame are you playing?
The grid you need to use is an hexagonal one?

[Marc]

A police station.

The floorplan:

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The external views:

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[Marc]

Detailed deckplans and exterior views of a fireboat of the Los Angeles Fire Department.

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[Marc]

A small Norman village, with a crossroad.

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[Marc]

Half flooded fields and roads, near a village.

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[Marc]

Ok, It's more suitable for "Call of Cthulhu" game... but I like it anyway. Perhaps a peaceful and misterious house with some fortunate and misterious survivors, always ready to offer their hospitality to any unexpected visitor.

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[chico20854]

A high-end yacht (http://www.gregmarshalldesign.com/temp/images/pics/plans/boa_34_1.pdf). Might be better for a Merc campaign than T2k...

[JimmyRay73]

Ah... I think this would be a little treasure cove... A house with its own hangar!
For more information: http://www.silverwingatsandpoint.com/units_siteplan.html

Ah...there are things that only exist in the USA! :) The paradise of the aviation fans!!

Well, you don't need to situate the house in the fantastic complex of the link. Instead, a lonely, apparently deserted house with a large, leveled and abandoned area, covered now by high grass can hide the hangar of this map... An old wind indicator could be the only clue that the plain in front of the house worked like an aerodrome.

And, after all, if you put there a conventional single-engine light aircraft, like the Cessna 152, with and air cooled engine, traditional carburetor and ignition by magneto you would have less mechanical complexity than in most of the present-day cars... Nice possibility.

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There's a housing plan/suburb near Cleveland Ohio that actually has several hangars like this, and was designed so the main street through it could be closed off for use as a runway. I remember thinking it was a ludicrously awesome idea when I read about it in the newspaper a few years ago. Cleveland Plain Dealer I think...

[Marc]

The security chart of the Italian presidential airplane. In use in other Air forces, like France and Venezuela.

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[Marc]

Different interior configuration for the same plane (a corporate transport). More suitable for the Merc:2000 background.

External view:
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Conf 1 (the most usual):
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[Littlearmies]

Mmmm... interesting. What wargame are you playing?
The grid you need to use is an hexagonal one?

15mm figures - and I'm kind of going with Battleground Panzergrenadier or Battlefront rules (with option of Command Decision III). The first two have one stand equal a squad or section and one model equal to or three vehicles - CDIII is a step up with each stand representing a platoon.

So Battlefront US Armoured Infantry Company from Normandy would be:

1 Command stand + M3 Half track

9 Infantry stand (3 with bazooka)

3 LMG stands

6 M3 Half tracks

1 57mm AT gun + M3 half track

1 60mm mortar stand + M3 half track

Each stand has between 2 -5 figures depending upon taste. So my German MG42s have gunner, loader and spotter on each stand, while my rifle stands have two or three riflemen with the odd MP40 guy mixed in.

So think Flames of War but with a bit more historical accuracy and complexity and a few less figures on the table.

[Marc]

I used to play Command Decision (I). Well, more commonly I used to refeere Command Decision games... I asked you about the grid you use to translate the map to your representation of the terrain because I could add the grid directly to the Colomby map.

About Flames of War, last week I went with some of my friends to an area of Barcelona with an important concentation of stores devoted to wargames and roleplaying games. We discover that an old, tiny store we used to visit occasionally has been reformed and expanded. A true temple of vice with its own pub inside! Nearly one third of the store was full of "Flames of War" products. It seems that people of "Flames of War" are in a full commercial offensive.

[JimmyRay73]

Lots of good floorplans here:http://www.houseplans.com/

Searches for "floorplans" on most search engines will get you lots of neat stuff for games. I've found tons in just the past three weeks.

[headquarters]

this was a great thread !

[Marc]

From "Call od Duty". Two images very suitable for a briefing. The maps can be easily drawn from them. The first one is from Brecourt Manor. Change the 88's at will. ;)

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Trapped in a parking under a collapsed building? Looking for fuel or for spare parts for your vehicles? Or is it improvised shelter in a ruined city? Anyway an old parking with some intact vehicles could be something near a post-apocalyptic treasure trove...;)

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[Marc]

Bombed docks with destroyed warehouses and some sunken barges.

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[Littlearmies]

Olympic Accomodation Barge

http://www.barges.com/olympia.html

Cable 1

http://www.barges.com/cable1.htm

Malcolm

[Marc]

Olympic Accomodation Barge

http://www.barges.com/olympia.html

Cable 1

http://www.barges.com/cable1.htm

Malcolm

Great material!

[Marc]

11m Special operations assault boat, from Working Boats LTF.

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"...The MEDecon 3L-18 is a compact, mobile decon trailer designed for mass causalty decon response. Managing chemical, biological, radiological, nulcear (CBRN) and hazmat incident needs, the MEDecon 3L-18 can be quickly implemented on site in just 10 minutes, ready to carefully and effectively process all ambulatory and non-ambulatory patients. ..."

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[leonpoi]

This is a town I'm going to use. The map is actually randomly generated in a couple of seconds and then exported to a mapping programme. It's a handy feature because villages and towns can be quickly generated if the pcs stumble into one (for example from a random encounter).

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/9538/smalltowntest.th.png (http://img19.imageshack.us/i/smalltowntest.png/)

[Marc]

Great map Leonpoi!

[Marc]

A 17.5m lanfing craft, by Jordan Boats. Technical specifications included.

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[natehale1971]

(edit by kato13 merged this into this thread)

I found this, and thought I would share it with everyone. I have more that I will be posting as soon as I am able!

http://www.digifruit.com/aimi/natehale/01-Oil_Rig_001.jpg

http://www.digifruit.com/aimi/natehale/01-Oil_Rig_002.jpg

[natehale1971]

http://www.digifruit.com/aimi/natehale/Private/Oil_Rig_001.jpg

http://www.digifruit.com/aimi/natehale/Private/Oil_Rig_002.jpg

[Marc]

The last one is great. I had been trying to find a good plan of an oil rig by myself, but I didn't manage to get anything "ready to use" in a gaming session.

[natehale1971]

Thank you. I have alot more maps/floorplans around here. I just need to get them uploaded. :)

[kato13]

Thank you. I have alot more maps/floorplans around here. I just need to get them uploaded. :)

Looking forward to them. I love maps :D

Has anyone played with Microsoft Visio's floorplan maker? I kinda noticed it yesterday and it seems to have potential.

[JimmyRay73]

I did a few computers ago, made several maps for game sessions way back in the day. Too bad they've all evaporated into the mists of time and computer crashes...

All in all visio was handy for ginning up quick floorplans.

[Targan]

Has anyone played with Microsoft Visio's floorplan maker? I kinda noticed it yesterday and it seems to have potential.
I am interested in purchasing this kind of software. How much does it retail for?

[kato13]

I am interested in purchasing this kind of software. How much does it retail for?

Visio is usually part of Microsoft Office. I would not recommend purchasing Office ($$$) for this alone as other floor plan makers would give you more bang for the buck, but if you have access to the Office Install program it might be worth installing to take a look. Visio is one of Microsoft's more recent acquisitions so they have not had time to totally ruin it yet ;) .

[Targan]

Visio is usually part of Microsoft Office.
I have Microsoft Office 2007 but I don't remember seeing Visio as an install option. Maybe I'd better get the disk out and have another look.

[Legbreaker]

I think this sums it up quite well.....

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[kato13]

I have Microsoft Office 2007 but I don't remember seeing Visio as an install option. Maybe I'd better get the disk out and have another look.

It looks like they spun it off after Office 2003. If you come across a copy it is useful for lots of graphic related things. Like I made this chart to help me with a T2k13 character creation application I will probably start soon.

http://games.juhlin.com/files/CharGen.gif

[headquarters]

I am interested in purchasing this kind of software. How much does it retail for?


called DunDjinni or some such that has a "MODERN" pack you can add. Its time consuming , but maps get cool .Nothing like indicating wrecked cars like small templates that are photos of wrecked cars if you know what I mean ..

On their site you can borrow stuff from the user community - alot of good maps there - and a lot of unusables to -after all evil 21th level wizard has a certain taste that might not translate to gritty post apoc.

[natehale1971]

An arctic or anarctic station...
http://www.digifruit.com/aimi/natehale/Private/ArcticStation2293.pdf
http://www.digifruit.com/aimi/natehale/Private/ArcticStation2293.pdf

A soviet Typhoon class submarine i found at a Stargate SG1 RPG resource site...
http://www.digifruit.com/aimi/natehale/Private/USSR%20Zhagadka.pdf

Camp Trepitation from the "Weekend Warriors" Military Horror adventure

http://www.digifruit.com/aimi/natehale/Private/RPG_Stuff/weekend-warriors-maps.pdf (http://www.digifruit.com/aimi/natehale/Private/RPG_Stuff/weekend-warriors-maps.pdf)

[General Pain]

This is a town I'm going to use. The map is actually randomly generated in a couple of seconds and then exported to a mapping programme. It's a handy feature because villages and towns can be quickly generated if the pcs stumble into one (for example from a random encounter).

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/9538/smalltowntest.th.png (http://img19.imageshack.us/i/smalltowntest.png/)

excellent map...

how did you make it?

[Cdnwolf]

Sea cruise anyone? If anyone is interested I have the complete deck plans for most of the worlds cruise ships.

[Marc]

From "Close Combat Series", the Arnhem bridge and especially its north ramp and surrounding area, taken and defended by the people of John Frost. In the T2K setup, it could be any European or American city with an important river. As always in these maps, the number shows the height in floors.

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[leonpoi]

excellent map...

how did you make it?

First I grabbed a random city generator that is good by itself:
http://www.stargazersworld.com/2009/02/27/roleplaying-city-map-generator/

it's so quick and simple to use, and generates pretty good maps (exported to bmps etc) by itself. However, where it gets really good is that fractal mapper has a plugin which you can use to import a saved map from this programme. Once it's imported it looks better, and you can move things around etc. All I've done to the imported map is drag the roads and rivers out a touch, deleted a few dead-end roads from the random generation, and plopped in a building of my own (the barracks over the river) and the rubble etc. I selected a 20m (I think) hex-grid and we're good to go. I love it because I roll Village as a random encounter and while the pcs are discussing what they are doing I'm quickly generating a map, plus you can print a few for future use.

[edit] by the way the plugin works on the demo and I think the demo exports image files.

[leonpoi]

here is another example of a map quickly generated. There are 2 versions here, the first has some shading/fill to represent the area of the town. I would like some feedback from anyone about which version they think looks best.

Also, any idea how I would show fields/crops on the map? I've tried to represent them by hashed/shaded regions but it doesn't look quite right. If anyone has some ideas, that would be great.

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/3695/mapc.png
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/5901/map2t.png

[Cdnwolf]

I use the program too and its great for those small towns that are nestled in the woods.

[Canadian Army]

Here is the Layout for a Royal Observation Corps Monitoring Post and Group Headquarters that I found here: http://www.subbrit.org.uk/rsg/roc/index2.shtml

[Marc]

Trying to revive this thread after some months of inactivity...

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A partially destroyed urban area.

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With railways, flooded areas, farmhouses and fields.

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[Marc]

A firebase. With its bunkers, mortars, howitzers...

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[Marc]

Here's a map we've produced using Fractal Mapper for a future T2k adventure we are writting for our website. The adventure situates the players in little Polish village where a small US military force is just starting to establish a cantontment. Attached here you will find two versions of the same map (the pdf files below the preview images). One of them has a square grid (each square= 10m).

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