Northern Europe / Scandinavia Sourcebook

[Lurken]

Hi

A fellow T2k:er and me have talked about that it would be fun to write up more information about the theater in Northern Europe beyond what is stated already. The reasoning is that what happens in Scandinavia will cause ripples down to Germany, Poland and the Baltics.

So we will start laying out the basics of what happened in the years leading up to the Twilight War, and during the war.

The main focuses will be the Nordic countries, together with Kola peninsula, Karelia region in Soviet Union and potentially Iceland.

If people would like to contribute, they are welcome to do so. Any and all help is always greatly appreciated.

[Lurken]

Various regions and their assumed state, going by the descriptions that I have read and surmised.

Norway: Is divided and ravaged by ongoing war. Southern parts are held by NATO/Norwegian forces led by the norwegian king. There was a failed offensive against Narvik(?) that was beaten back by remaining WP-forces.

Finland: Defended fiercely against both NATO and WP. The finnish Lapland region in the north is likely devastated. The border area against soviet Karelia and Leningrad is likely also damaged. Unknown status on the state of Finland.

Denmark: Likely devastated by conventional means early in the war to slow deployment of NATO forces into the Baltic sea. Copenhagen most likely a heap of rubble. Bridges to Germany likely blown up, either by danes, germans or by soviet means. The state of Denmark is likely nominal in name only. Possibly failed state at the end of the war.

Sweden: Saw heavy fighting in the north due to spill over from Norway and Finland when dealing with NATO, WP and marauder forces. The mining industry in north does not exist at the moment. Southern and middle Sweden is likely swamped by refugees from Norway and Denmark, and possibly Finland and other nations at the Baltic Sea. Wartime coalition government. Stable state at the moment, but in a bad position. Possibly sending limited forces to the Baltic states and Poland to secure influence and resources. Possibly having geopolitical struggle against France in Northern Europe.

Kola and soviet Karelia: Likely under formal control of USSR, but may harbor separatists.

Iceland: No idea. Possibly forgotten over the war, except for the total reduction of Keflavik and strategic harbours.

[Legbreaker]

That summary sounds about right. I'm thinking Iceland has probably suffered a significant population reduction after being cut off from the outside world and the trade goods that's usually required to support people in that climate.
Those left have likely reverted to old practices to survive, the skills and memories of elders proving absolutely vital to a settlements viability.

I wonder how many of the members of the Swedish expeditionary forces call or compare themselves to Vikings? :p

[Olefin]

"Norway: Is divided and ravaged by ongoing war. Southern parts are held by NATO/Norwegian forces led by the norwegian king. There was a failed offensive against Narvik(?) that was beaten back by remaining WP-forces."

Based on the writeup in Boomer it sounds more like that offensive succeeded

[Raellus]

I'm pretty sure Going Home mentions that the Danish Jutland division returned home in the autumn of 2000 to perform local security functions. This, to me at least, implies that it wouldn't be a failed state, but one that has recused itself from the continuing conflict to focus on recovery.

I've done a write up regarding Sweden's subtle attempts to gain influence in central Europe through diplomatic, economic, and military means. See Post #25:

https://forum.juhlin.com/showthread.php?t=4881

[Olefin]

I'm pretty sure Going Home mentions that the Danish Jutland division returned home in the autumn of 2000 to perform local security functions. This, to me at least, implies that it wouldn't be a failed state, but one that has recused itself from the continuing conflict to focus on recovery.

I've done a couple of write ups regarding Sweden's subtle attempts to gain influence in central Europe through diplomatic, economic, and military means. I'll share it when I get home.

You are correct about the Jutland Division

Jutland Danish MD (2,000 men): The bulk of this unit has withdrawn from Germany, and repatriated itself to Denmark, either by land or by crossing the straits to the Danish islands of Lolland and Falster, Some personnel have chosen to remain in Germany, and have attached themselves to various military and quasi-military groups.

There is also the Slesvig Regimental Combat Team of 600 men that are in southern Denmark as well - with 600 men and been there since Dec 1997 on internal security duties

[Lurken]

"Norway: Is divided and ravaged by ongoing war. Southern parts are held by NATO/Norwegian forces led by the norwegian king. There was a failed offensive against Narvik(?) that was beaten back by remaining WP-forces."

Based on the writeup in Boomer it sounds more like that offensive succeeded

Ah! Thank for the note, I'll read up exactly what it says there. But even with Narvik back in the hands of norwegians, Norway are still in a bad spot.


I'm pretty sure Going Home mentions that the Danish Jutland division returned home in the autumn of 2000 to perform local security functions. This, to me at least, implies that it wouldn't be a failed state, but one that has recused itself from the continuing conflict to focus on recovery.

I've done a write up regarding Sweden's subtle attempts to gain influence in central Europe through diplomatic, economic, and military means. See Post #25:

https://forum.juhlin.com/showthread.php?t=4881

Thank you! Still points towards that Denmark, if not failed, it doesn't feel well. Mildly speaking. Would you agree on the notion that Denmark is likely reduced early in the war by conventional means to deny NATO easy access into the Baltics?

And your post about the swedes operating in northern Poland is what started this ball rolling =)

[Tanper]

There is actually semi-official lore surrounding this, as there was an official Twilight 2000 sourcebook in Finnish called "The Nordic Countries".
I'll post the main details here (will post additional details to those interested, I own the book):

Finland is under military dictatorship.
Sweden in in the grips of a civil war.
Denmark is quite okay.
Norway is led by a heroic military-prince.
Iceland is just about normal.

[Legbreaker]

There is actually semi-official lore surrounding this, as there was an official Twilight 2000 sourcebook in Finnish called "The Nordic Countries".

I think there's a thread detailing most of it already?

[Legbreaker]

These are what I think are the main hits when I put "Finland" in as the search parameter. There were 130 threads found in total though, and I didn't use any other parameters, so it's quite likely some relevant threads have been missed.

https://forum.juhlin.com/showthread.php?t=4771
https://forum.juhlin.com/showthread.php?t=5513
https://forum.juhlin.com/showthread.php?t=4412
https://forum.juhlin.com/showthread.php?t=3886
https://forum.juhlin.com/showthread.php?t=3906
https://forum.juhlin.com/showthread.php?t=3868
https://forum.juhlin.com/showthread.php?t=3903
https://forum.juhlin.com/showthread.php?t=3881
https://forum.juhlin.com/showthread.php?t=3352
https://forum.juhlin.com/showthread.php?t=2685
https://forum.juhlin.com/showthread.php?t=1437
https://forum.juhlin.com/showthread.php?t=1438
https://forum.juhlin.com/showthread.php?t=1007
https://forum.juhlin.com/showthread.php?t=716
https://forum.juhlin.com/showthread.php?t=165

[Lurken]

There is actually semi-official lore surrounding this, as there was an official Twilight 2000 sourcebook in Finnish called "The Nordic Countries".
I'll post the main details here (will post additional details to those interested, I own the book):

Finland is under military dictatorship.
Sweden in in the grips of a civil war.
Denmark is quite okay.
Norway is led by a heroic military-prince.
Iceland is just about normal.

I was under impression that it was an unofficial addition, since it was only in finnish. So I am sorta disregarding that book.

These are what I think are the main hits when I put "Finland" in as the search parameter. There were 130 threads found in total though, and I didn't use any other parameters, so it's quite likely some relevant threads have been missed.

https://forum.juhlin.com/showthread.php?t=4771
https://forum.juhlin.com/showthread.php?t=5513
https://forum.juhlin.com/showthread.php?t=4412
https://forum.juhlin.com/showthread.php?t=3886
https://forum.juhlin.com/showthread.php?t=3906
https://forum.juhlin.com/showthread.php?t=3868
https://forum.juhlin.com/showthread.php?t=3903
https://forum.juhlin.com/showthread.php?t=3881
https://forum.juhlin.com/showthread.php?t=3352
https://forum.juhlin.com/showthread.php?t=2685
https://forum.juhlin.com/showthread.php?t=1437
https://forum.juhlin.com/showthread.php?t=1438
https://forum.juhlin.com/showthread.php?t=1007
https://forum.juhlin.com/showthread.php?t=716
https://forum.juhlin.com/showthread.php?t=165

Thank you Legbreaker, some of those threads contained very good information!

[Olefin]

The Twilight 2000 sourcebook in Finnish is not official and was never authorized by GDW - so while you can use it if you like its not actually canon

[cawest]

Iceland would be in deep trouble. they can not supply enough food for the island current pop. I would expect some people fleeing there after the nuks started to fly. (they would view it as a safe place) I could see powerful people going there and not waiting to just to sit in the hot water and would try to take power in some way. with a shortage of food and fuel (the 4x4 is the state truck after all) things would get ugly.

[Lurken]

The Twilight 2000 sourcebook in Finnish is not official and was never authorized by GDW - so while you can use it if you like its not actually canon

Yea, and it is rubbish. I went through the translated version that I found, and it manages to contradict itself, inside the book. When describing each nordic country, they list all the nuclear attacks. But further down in the book, when they go around the world, I noticed that the Scandinavia part was totally unchanged from the v.2.2 book. With the exception of the editor note.

HOWEVER, we do not that in Boomer, which is official, they specified that Oslo was nuked. So that stays in. But rest of the attacks were more conventional missile/bomber strikes.

Which means, that the editor must have read and should have realized that the book was self-contradicting. It is total rubbish, sadly.

I think this is just another reason to clean it up and do something more sane and internally consistent.

[Raellus]

Thank you! Still points towards that Denmark, if not failed, it doesn't feel well. Mildly speaking. Would you agree on the notion that Denmark is likely reduced early in the war by conventional means to deny NATO easy access into the Baltics?

Yes, I reckon that the Soviets hit the ports with heaps of conventional munitions (and a few Spetznaz raids), and harbors/channels would be extensively mined. I'm quite surprised that canon doesn't have Denmark being nuked at all (AFAIK).

So yeah, Danish infrastructure would be badly damaged, and Denmark would be suffering from fuel and food shortages as well. Compared to its neighbors, however, I think it would be in relatively decent shape. I don't think that it would be a failed state.

And your post about the swedes operating in northern Poland is what started this ball rolling =)

That's awesome. :)

I too am feeling inspired. This thread has got me thinking about creating a proper Nordic Sourcebook.

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[Legbreaker]

I'm quite surprised that canon doesn't have Denmark being nuked at all (AFAIK).

It's worth keeping in mind the game was originally written assuming American players with American characters in American units doing American things.
Other nations appear tacked on almost as an afterthought. Given the lack of US units in the Scandinavian countries as of 2000, it no surprise there's little detail given of those areas.
Looking at all the game materials, it's really only those regions where US troops are likely to be found or move through that have any reasonably detailed information. The latter books moved some way towards detailing other areas too, but it was still generally assumed I think that there would be US characters involved - Bears Den for example.
Given the time the game was developed, and the fact it was a US company with predominately (perhaps even solely - I don't really know) US staff, and RP gamers in the 80's and early 90's were mostly US, it makes sense. Rather annoying for us now, three decades later as we seek to expand into these other regions, but it's understandable why it is the way it is.

Also worth remembering that besides a few exceptions canon doesn't actually state places were not nuked, only those which definitely were. 1.0, 2.2 and 2.2 all indicate the individual GM is free, even encouraged to add more strikes, even if only as random encounters of tac nuke craters.

[pmulcahy11b]

I went through the translated version that I found,
Where did you find this translated version? How can we get one?

[Olefin]

It's worth keeping in mind the game was originally written assuming American players with American characters in American units doing American things.
Other nations appear tacked on almost as an afterthought. Given the lack of US units in the Scandinavian countries as of 2000, it no surprise there's little detail given of those areas.
Looking at all the game materials, it's really only those regions where US troops are likely to be found or move through that have any reasonably detailed information. The latter books moved some way towards detailing other areas too, but it was still generally assumed I think that there would be US characters involved - Bears Den for example.
Given the time the game was developed, and the fact it was a US company with predominately (perhaps even solely - I don't really know) US staff, and RP gamers in the 80's and early 90's were mostly US, it makes sense. Rather annoying for us now, three decades later as we seek to expand into these other regions, but it's understandable why it is the way it is.

Also worth remembering that besides a few exceptions canon doesn't actually state places were not nuked, only those which definitely were. 1.0, 2.2 and 2.2 all indicate the individual GM is free, even encouraged to add more strikes, even if only as random encounters of tac nuke craters.

Thats one reason I did as much research as I did on the East Africa Sourcebook as to likely places for where the nuclear attacks would have occurred based on the size of the refineries and other assets the US and Soviets were trying to deny the other side (as well as letting the South Africans get a few licks in as well). And why when I revised it I changed one nuke strike based on the fact that it really didnt make sense for the Soviets to waste a nuke on that target.

[Legbreaker]

And why when I revised it I changed one nuke strike based on the fact that it really didnt make sense for the Soviets to waste a nuke on that target.

Well, the Soviet warheads weren't known for their pinpoint accuracy, and their intel may also have been somewhat dated or inaccurate.
That said, I can't imagine Kenya would have had great security against espionage and general spying either... :/

[Lurken]

Where did you find this translated version? How can we get one?

I found it attached to one post in one thread here at Juhlin. I'll attach it here too.

So yeah, Danish infrastructure would be badly damaged, and Denmark would be suffering from fuel and food shortages as well. Compared to its neighbors, however, I think it would be in relatively decent shape. I don't think that it would be a failed state.

I too am feeling inspired. This thread has got me thinking about creating a proper Nordic Sourcebook.



Yea, I am convinced that Denmark is in a better state, but to keep up tensions and destabilize Sweden a little, I'll still put lots of danish refugees in Sweden.

Welcome aboard to the Nordic train Raellus =)

[Trooper]

All the strange things you can find from net. There is 48 pages in the Nordic sourcebook.

This "Nordic sourcebook" is shortened version. Mainly containing information from pages 9-12, 18-19 and from page 48.

Chapter "Elsewhere" is not even from Nordic sourcebook.:confused: This material containing global information is probably from Twiligth rulebook (version 2.0 or 2.2).

You can buy all finnish Twilight 2000 modules from here.

https://www.fantasiapelit.com/

Nordic sourcebook cost 5 euros + postal charge.

[Lurken]

All the strange things you can find from net. There is 48 pages in the Nordic sourcebook.

This "Nordic sourcebook" is shortened version. Mainly containing information from pages 9-12, 18-19 and from page 48.

Chapter "Elsewhere" is not even from Nordic sourcebook.:confused: This material containing global information is probably from Twiligth rulebook (version 2.0 or 2.2).

You can buy all finnish Twilight 2000 modules from here.

https://www.fantasiapelit.com/

Nordic sourcebook cost 5 euros + postal charge.


Ah, well, good to know that then.

But it is still only available in finnish. So it is basically unusable.

This is why those books are considered less canon that the City of Angels book, which is too considered pretty non-canon.

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Sapmi: The northern natives.

The Twilight War have caused untold pain, misery and destruction. Yet for a few, it has created opportunities. The Sapmi people have for the region unique adaptability and experience with the lands of the northern reaches of Europe. This have allowed them to expand where others had to withdraw and contract. However, they are still relatively weak and feeble compared to the might of the nations where in they technically still reside. However, those nations are pre-occupied elsewhere, leaving breathing room for them to use their situation. At the moment they are busy playing the powers against each others. Giving scouting aid to Swedish military forces against one group of marauders, while at the same time dropping intel to other maruader remnants that the swedish military cantonments are weakened.

Their ultimate goal is to broker for more power in the north, with the hope to finally have a nation of their own, made from the far reaches of Sweden, Norway, Finland and Soviet Union.

[Vespers War]

Ah, well, good to know that then.

But it is still only available in finnish. So it is basically unusable.

This is why those books are considered less canon that the City of Angels book, which is too considered pretty non-canon.

But how canon is Twilightcycle: 2000? :p

[Legbreaker]

But how canon is Twilightcycle: 2000? :p

Oh, totally! 100%
:p

[Trooper]

Survivors Guide to Finland

Non canon . V1 timeline.

Before war: Finland was a republic whose head of state was President Martti Ahtisaari, who lead the nation's foreign policy and was the supreme commander of the Finnish Defence Forces. Finland's head of government was Prime Minister Paavo Lipponen, who lead the nation's executive branch, called the Finnish Government. Legislative power is vested in the Parliament of Finland (Finnish: Suomen eduskunta), and the Government has limited rights to amend or extend legislation. Because the Constitution of Finland vests power to both the President and Government, the President has veto power over parliamentary decisions, although this power can be overruled by a majority vote in the Parliament.

War: Finnish Defense Forces were able to defend nation until war went nuclear in October 1997. Finnish government survived nuclear strikes. Mi-8 carrying president and cabinet was lost above Lake Paijanne. No one is quite sure, what happened during those chaotic days after nuclear strikes. Ten days after incident general Tuomo Koivuniemi informed citizens that Finland don’t have government or president. New Emergency Council has 15 members and major political parties have five seats and military have 10 seats.

Nuclear targets

Helsinki: one 10 kt strike to Santahamina military base (air force shot down other cruise missile that was heading to government district in downtown area).

Naantali: oil refinery 50 kt.

Upinniemi: naval base 10 kt.

Porvoo: oil refinery 10 kt.

Soviet 25 megaton high altitude detonation over North Sea generated very strong electromagnetic pulse. EMP destroyed power grid and damaged seriously both nuclear power plants in Olkiluoto and Loviisa. Two weeks after first nuclear onslaught USAF high altitude nuclear strikes above Ural Mountains destroyed electronics that were spared in first salvo. Adding injury to insult western EMP attack destroys newly installed YLE emergency transmitters. Last newspaper was delivered in Oulu area in December 1997.

Helsinki is in state of anarchy. Police and military units are unable control or even contain situation. Many government organizations did have hardened shelters, but those command centers were deserted when there was no room for family members.

From January to June 1998 Finnish society was breaking down fast. Money started to lose its value, postal service couldn’t deliver mail anymore, police was not able to keep order in and even in army large scale desertion was huge problem when reservist returned home to protect their families.

July 1998 military government started demobilization. Most units returned back to their peace time barracks.

August 1998 Stocks of medicine, fertilizer, fuel and food were rapidly decreasing. Mass exodus from cities to countryside. Finnish police have lost 70% of its officers.

In July 2000 population of Finland is 2,56 million. About two million people live in government-controlled areas. Provisional government controls area south of Kotka-Oulu line. Even in that area there are several uncontrolled areas like Helsinki and its surrounding metropolitan area. There are military units outside Kotka-Oulu line, but those units are able to control only small enclaves. In Southern Finland there is no more battalion sized rogue military units, but in Northern Finland there is even brigade size units that don’t take orders from government.

There are several powerful pirate groups in eastern part of Gulf of Finland. Most of them operate from old coastal artillery fortresses. Navy is currently unable to destroy heavily fortified island fortresses.

Urban population is 10-20 % of its prewar level. Main foreign trade site is Turku. Finnish coast and archipelago are still heavily mined (50 000 mines). There is only one patrolled sea lane through archipelago to Turku. Outside navy patrolled sea lane mines, pirates and insular fishing communities are huge threat to anybody who don’t have good guide and lots of firepower.

Military government areas are organized. Areas near soviet border are disputed or terrorized. No military invasion but a lot of marauders and refugees from Russia. Largest marauder units are battalion sized units that can easily overrun even a small town.

Outside government-controlled area you can find large areas in anarchy with county sized areas that are independent or insular.

In June 2000 capitol city is Tampere. It still has population of 32 410. In day time civilian police can patrol in unarmored vehicles. Ancient hydroelectrical plants still produce trickle of energy to run factories. Factories and foundries can produce spare parts to weapons and vehicles. Like Krakow Tampere is also home of armament production. Reloading, mortar rounds and hand grenades dominate, but government hopes that in near future that arsenal would be able to produce brass casings to ammo reloaders and even 122 mm artillery rounds. Near Tampere is Pirkkala air base. Its last operational air base in Finland. There isn’t any fuel for training, but there is still couple of fighters with full fuel tanks. Pirkkala is also the main base of Provisional Air Force Security Regiment that provides security for Tampere region.

Rajamaki alcohol factory is main source of ethanol fuel and biodiesel. Factory and its surroundings are protected with infantry battalion and with Crotale NG AA-battery. There is enough fuel for government use. Cheap fuel is also sold to ships that arrive to Turku harbor.

Trade. Finland is exporting timber, charcoal, tar and biodiesel. University of Tampere can make small batches of antibiotics, meth and synthetic opioids. Government is also ready to sale captured NATO and Soviet armament and vehicles. Small amounts of luxury goods such as vodka, low quality tobacco and greenhouse grown cannabis is exported. Illegal cannabis exporting is controlled by military intelligence. Intelligence service need both gold and information about smugglers and other extralegal activities. In December 2000 one paper mill in Tampere started limited production (3% from prewar level). Only two months later several hundred kilos of paper from first batch were sold to Krakow city government!

Finnish customs service takes 10 % of everything that is imported or exported (gold or in kind). Uncontrolled archipelago makes smuggling profitable and dangerous profession.

Finnish merchants are ready buy to practically anything, if price is right. Government is very interested to buy POL products and night vision technology. Finnish army don’t have enough night vision gear and you can run truck with biodiesel, but you need real oil for lubrication.

Government controlled counties are controlled by local officials. Nimismies is much like old west sheriff. They enforce law, collect taxes, prosecute offenders in court, form ad hoc units to defend area and they perform other duties like welfare. Nimismies don’t have many public servants to help him. Most public servants are local citizens who pay their taxes with work.

Farmers and artisans pay their taxes in kind. Other pay in gold, silver or like most citizens they have duty to work for government. Adults have to work one day in a week to government. It could be military service, guard duty, administrative work, maintaining roads, salvaging scrap metal, spare parts or machinery etc. In general military don’t protect communities against marauders. Villagers have to guard their own communities and farms.
Government do provide weapons and ammunition. Some lucky (probably living very dangerous area) will get assault rifle. Most have to do their guard duty and patrolling with old bolt action rifles and submachineguns. Unless you are in guard duty, you cannot carry military firearms outside our own home or farm. When local defense militias are unable to deal with marauders, nearest military unit will send reinforcements.

In most government-controlled areas military patrols area only in once a month. Typical Finnish Army antimarauder operation consist 100 infantry or military police men, using armored vehicles. Mortar platoon provides fire support. There is usually supply platoon with tactical field care squad. Usually marauder sweeps are intelligence-based operations. Most of the intelligence comes from local authorities (nimismies), but there is growing number of recon patrols that gather intelligence.

Military government will also help people who have lost their home for one reason or other. There is no large-scale refugee problem in government-controlled areas.

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Thanks Trooper!

[nikoruo]

i join this group....and i copy paste this what i but on facebook..
I was thinking To build campaing setting To north lapland. In To free city of Kilpisjärvi. Whic was formed by deserters from fdf, soviet and Nato forces. There is mercenary unit on Kilpisjärvi Whic is called laplands free legion players start as part of it.
North of Kilpisjärvi soviet army remrants terrorize northen norway.
South of kilpisjärvi there is fundamental Christian state that calls it self davids sword. It would be like isis
East there would be free city of inari. And between saami People how would be orginized To clans figtingh each other.

I welcome any ideas

[Lurken]

Welcome!

Interesting take on the sapmi. I thought that it would be interesting to have them carve out their own nation from the ruins of others. Then again, I hardly doubt that the sapmis are effective in their struggle and see plenty of power plays and struggle (diplomatic, influence, power or violence) between the potential fractions.

Regarding the christians, there is a group called the Laestadians, who are a splinter of lutheranism, that historically been on their own edge. It is not too unbelievable that a splinter of them forms and go extremist.

[nikoruo]

i think sami country would be located around inari and kautokeino.Moast of smi live in finnmark region. Twilightwar perheaps would push tem to southernparts of finmark..and northern parts of finish lapland. In finish sourcebook pohjoismaat there is mentioning that inari has army unit that has rebelled and splintered from finish army.I would base david sword on lestadians.whit powerfull and charismatic headfigure a cult how would see twilightwar as end of times and only true belivers will repopulate the earth.Lestadians are strong in northern parts of finland and sweden

[nikoruo]

this is what i reseived 2001 when i went to refresher..so this would same things that in 1990 you would receive when mobilised in finland


rk-62
4 magazines
gun cleaninkit
bayonet
combat webbing
backpack
rain gear
gasmask
0.5l canteen
fork/spoon
mesh kit
snow suit
”sissi” parka long winter jacket
fielduniform m-61
steelhelmet
rubber boots
wool underwear
2x underwear shorts t-shirt
4x pairs of socks
fur cap/summer cap
2x mittens wool and leather
balaclava
sleeping back
first aid kit

[Lurken]

I have done some more work on my project. It is still very early. But I have a rough guideline going forward, which I need to fill out with material.

I have gone through what I think would be strategic targets by either NATO or PACT in the Nordic countries that would warrant reduction/destruction to deny it to the other part. I have gone for harbors, key point railroad junctions, oil industries and some airports. If people have more ideas for what should be knocked out, let me know. I'll paste the current list in to be "eye-catching".

Sweden
Gothenburg Harbour (cruise missiles)
Malmö Harbour (thermobaric and cruise missiles)
Silte Harbour (cruise missiles)
Lysekil Oil Refinery (tactical nuclear)
Gothenburg Oil Refinery (tactical nuclear)
Nynäshamn Oil Industry (tactical nuclear)
Loudden Oil Industry (Stockholm) (cruise missiles)

Norway
Oslo (strategic nuclear)
Stavanger Oil Industry (tactical nuclear)
Stavanger Harbour (tactical nuclear)
Bergen Harbour (tactical nuclear)
Trondheim Oil Industry (tactical nuclear)
Offshore Oilplatforms (cruise missiles)
Drammen Railroad Junction (tactical nuclear)
Storen Railroad Junction (tactical nuclear)
Hamar Railroad Junction (tactical nuclear)
Honefoss Railroad Junction (tactical nuclear)
Trondheim Airport/Railroad Junction (tactical nuclear)

Iceland
Keflavik Airport (Tactical nuclear)
Reykjavik Harbour (Tactical nuclear)

Denmark
Fyn-Sjaelland Bridge (Cruise Missiles)
Little Belt Bridges (Cruise Missiles)
Fredrikshavn Harbour (tactical nuclear)
Kalundborg Oil Harbour (tactical nuclear)
Aarhus Harbour (tactical nuclear)
Rödby Harbour (tactical nuclear)
Copenhagen Harbour (tactical nuclear)
Esbjerg Harbour (tactical nuclear)
Lunderskov Railroad Junction (tactical nuclear)
Copenhagen City (Massed conventional bombs)
Straits of Denmark (Airdropped mines and/or submarine dropped
mines)

Finland
Helsinki (punitive strikes)
Turku Harbour and Oil Industry (Cruise missiles)
Upinniemi Navalbase (Tactical Nuclear)
Oulo Airport (tactical nuclear)
Oulo Harbor (tactical nuclear)
Porvoo Oil Industry (tactical nuclear)
Kontiomaki Railroad Junction (tactical nuclear)
Tuomioja Railroad Junction (tactical nuclear)

[Ewan]

I know it's a very early draft but it still looks good :)

I think Iceland would try to make contact with the Faroe or Shetland Islands with regard to trade or even a place to flee too.

[cawest]

i would suggest that some of the rail road junction or bridge might be hit with F-111 or Su-24 or SF strike. one or two harbors might have had certain parts blocked with sunk ships that will take time to clear. maybe had one or two "seeded" with chemical weapons.

[Lurken]

i would suggest that some of the rail road junction or bridge might be hit with F-111 or Su-24 or SF strike. one or two harbors might have had certain parts blocked with sunk ships that will take time to clear. maybe had one or two "seeded" with chemical weapons.

Good suggestions! I'll factor that in.

I was just a bit lazy with the nukes, because I went with the description of Norway in Boomer

https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/93674956_700936227345078_6109394823108624384_n.png ?_nc_cat=109&_nc_sid=b96e70&_nc_ohc=gz3OlbpjMVUAX_6uLdZ&_nc_ht=scontent-arn2-1.xx&oh=24f50c288096217405781079c1f2dc40&oe=5EC3113C

So I felt a bit obliged to sprinkle nukes over Denmark as well, if not more due to the vicinity to the main battle theater of Central Europe.

[Trooper]

Some ideas for Finland.

Rovaniemi Airport is public airport and it’s also airbase for Lapland Air Command. In the air base area, there is also Army Air Defense Regiment.
There is also saying that “Finland is an island”. You can find harbors in small towns and its quite common that even factories and mines have their own harbors. Nuking Turku harbor won’t hurt logistics because next harbor is in Naantali (15 kilometers from Turku).

Probably NATO would like to destroy Kemi (two harbors) and Oulu (no less than four harbors). During cold war there were fears that Soviet Union could use those harbors to invade Sweden.

[Lurken]

Some ideas for Finland.

Rovaniemi Airport is public airport and it’s also airbase for Lapland Air Command. In the air base area, there is also Army Air Defense Regiment.
There is also saying that “Finland is an island”. You can find harbors in small towns and its quite common that even factories and mines have their own harbors. Nuking Turku harbor won’t hurt logistics because next harbor is in Naantali (15 kilometers from Turku).

Probably NATO would like to destroy Kemi (two harbors) and Oulu (no less than four harbors). During cold war there were fears that Soviet Union could use those harbors to invade Sweden.

Thank you for the information. Yea, in my current draft I have soviets nuking Oulu. After that they during the conventional part of the war bombed it to deny Finland ease of reinforcement to hamper their ability to harass them on the flank as the soviets push towards Norway through Sweden and Finland.

Currently I had NATO nuking one of the major harbors on Gotland to deny that to the russians, but Kemi is a good candidate.

Also, since you seem to have a little more info on Finland. I am thinking about having three "Marauder Kings" in the greater Lapland area. They would be in Kiruna, Haparanda and Rovaniemi. Atleast the "king" in Kiruna would be from the Soviets, as the majority of his men.

[cawest]

what if the Russians take an island like Isosaari to cut off Finland ports. who took it out with a nuK? fingers point but it was a fishing boat with a nuk in the bottom hull.

[Trooper]

I am thinking about having three "Marauder Kings" in the greater Lapland area. They would be in Kiruna, Haparanda and Rovaniemi. Atleast the "king" in Kiruna would be from the Soviets, as the majority of his men.

In Lapland area most marauder bands should be quite small. Ten-man crew can easily take over a farm. Larger groups can take over small village. After all you need shelter and food during winter. Population density is very low in Lapland and in 2000-2001 marauder bands larger than 100 men are thing of past.

Former military units can carve small semi-feudal states that control 10 000 – 20 000 square kilometer areas. In Finland most probable place is Sodankyla, its also home of Jaeger Brigade. Probably area can support 500-1000 men unit

[Enfield]

Not sure, but has anyone added this?

Sweden (https://twilight2000.fandom.com/wiki/Sweden)

[Lurken]

In Lapland area most marauder bands should be quite small. Ten-man crew can easily take over a farm. Larger groups can take over small village. After all you need shelter and food during winter. Population density is very low in Lapland and in 2000-2001 marauder bands larger than 100 men are thing of past.

Former military units can carve small semi-feudal states that control 10 000 – 20 000 square kilometer areas. In Finland most probable place is Sodankyla, its also home of Jaeger Brigade. Probably area can support 500-1000 men unit

Hmm... yea, I know Lapland is harsh. Hence my idea of letting the Sapmi gain effective power in those areas, due to their experience of living of the land. But I underestimated the sheer harshness it seems.

Hmm.. then Sodankyla might be a source of power if nothing else. Haparande should be able to survive due to its fisheries.


Not sure, but has anyone added this?

Sweden (https://twilight2000.fandom.com/wiki/Sweden)

Missed that version, always good with inspiration. But it does clash with the established lore at some places, as talks being held in Oslo that was strategically nuked as per Boomer.

[Trooper]

Old FDF training video Taistelukentta (Battlefield Finland).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OB9ny9SR9Qs

Film was made in 1998. Nice material, if you need some ideas about FDF tactics and equipment in “Twilight era”. All the troops in film were first line troop, only 1/5 of the ground forces had modern gear like kevlar helmets and vests.

[Lurken]

With the files and information available from Antennas new website I have gotten some more inspiration and important tidbits. I have done more work with the histories of each country and region. Below is the current version of the history of the Twilight War in Denmark. Enjoy and please come with critique if I have missed anything.

A Brief History of Twilight War in Denmark
Denmark saw little actual fighting on its own soil except for localized naval raids and spetsnaz raids. This however did not spare Denmark from seeing heavy destruction. Denmark was early targeted by efforts of PACT-forces to deny danish shipping lanes and harbors to NATO to hinder NATO naval units access to the Baltic sea. NATO on its side used extensive mining of the straits to deny PACT naval forces escape the Baltic sea and conduct naval raids in southern Norway and elsewhere. As the war progressed danish harbors on the western coast saw more and more shipping diverted to it as the eastern half of Denmark became all but inaccessible. However this shifted PACT tactics to target key infrastructure hubs as highway bridges, rolling stocks, railroad junctions and harbor installations. During this time the danish population began to flee cities and into the countryside. The remaining military forces that had not been deployed to Germany did what it could to assist local civilian authorities and police to maintain order and stability. When the war turned nuclear in 1997 things turned quickly to the worse for the danish people and government. Most major cities were engulfed in nuclear fire, and virtually all strategic targets as major airports, harbors, logistical and industrial centers received the same treatment. The strategically placed island of Bornholm was notably heavily damaged by tactical nuclear weaponry, leading to the total evacuation of surviving military personnel and civilians to Denmark.

In the aftermath of the nuclear exchange and the reduction of population, production and military personnel the danes reorganized things to the best of their ability. Large numbers of danish civilians fled and were evacuated to Sweden to overcrowded refugee camps. The largest one is placed outside of Kristianstad, Scania in the southern area of Sweden numbering in over ten thousand displaced danes. The danes that stayed in Denmark saw near total societal collapse in vast areas of Denmark. As the royal family survived the nuclear exchange while relocated to Helsingör Castle in northern Zealand island, they formed the nucleus of the interim government of Denmark. Surviving elements of the civilian government attached it to the structure of the royal family, resulting in a modicum of societal stability of the destroyed nation. However, the effective control of that government is mainly restricted to the northern parts of Zealand, which also was the focus of relocation efforts.

Elsewhere Denmark was fertil, but abandoned or destroyed. With vast areas singed by nuclear hellfire and the countryside overburdened by civilians fleeing cities, order and stability soon collapsed. Many turned to banditry in order for them and their families to survive. What remained was terrorized territory with few and sparse lights of stability. Slavery, both voluntary and involuntary soon returned due to sheer nessesity of farming, production and survival.

[Ewan]

I noticed in the previews of the new version of Twilight 2000 they have a map of Sweden.

[Raellus]

The product description for the upcoming 4th edition of T2K mentions that the starting box set includes Sweden as an alternative setting to Poland. Makes sense since the developer is Swedish.

[Lurken]

Noticed it.

Don't know how to deal with it yet. I don't know how their history of the war is. So I think that the project will ignore this and keep it lore friendly to T2k v.1, v.2 and v.2.2.

[StainlessSteelCynic]

In the information they have released so far Fria Ligan gives a very basic overview of the world background and it sounds very much like the timeline from T2k Ver2.2

[Lurken]

In the information they have released so far Fria Ligan gives a very basic overview of the world background and it sounds very much like the timeline from T2k Ver2.2

Yes. However the official timeline for Sweden in v2.2 is that nothing really happened to it other than the northern territories got ravaged by the war. The map we can see is in the southern middle part, which seems to be destroyed by war. So, both can't be easily true at the same time.

[StainlessSteelCynic]

Ah yes, good point. With Fria Ligan wanting to make Sweden a site for adventures, they've probably changed the background a lot to make it interesting for players.
So like you mentioned, it's difficult to work out a history for your sourcebook that's compatible with Fria Ligan without knowing what they are going to do with Sweden.

[Legbreaker]

@Lurken
You might find this useful. https://theprinciplesofwar.com/podcast/32-mission-command-and-mission-success-with-nordbat-2/

[Hybris]

I found some "old" military exercise maps that i have saved for greater gaming in some future.i always thought there was just navigational airmaps over Sweden but it turned out to be more.

[Lurken]

If you have other regions showing on those maps I would be interested in giving pics/scans of them to my graphic guy I have secured for the book.

[Hybris]

I have but i acquired them many years ago in some vivid dream to reproduce them but it was ridiculously expensive. Since then i realized there is something called copyright and the The Swedish Defence Materiel Administration ( FMV) pulled everything offline because people didn't quote them correctly. Since then Kickstarter has appeared and maybe time is right to see what "value" these maps hold. I will make some attempt to find out next week to find out under what permissions i can reproduce and make publicly available. I'm still in the service so i don't need to start from the bottom to find out but i want to do this the right.

[Lurken]

Oooh, the Swedish maps even! Är du i svenska militären? Jag vet att saker kan vara känsliga, speciellt med militära dokument.

Anyways, I do appreciate any and all effort. What I would do, is to send them to my graphic guy. Ask him to retouch or get inspired by them, and write in the book that the original is feomthe Swedish Armed Forces.

[Hybris]

Yup i'm in the service. and since i want to continue to be i will do this right:)

[Hybris]

I can't find mine right now but i think this magazine also included material about the T2K in space and about those stranded in space.This is not the same version as antenna since he used the finish books if i remember it correctly.

https://www.alfaspel.se/482-sinkadus-rubicon/105132-rubicon-nr-3