Mongoose now own T2K and 2300

[Ewan]

https://forum.mongoosepublishing.com/threads/twilight-2000-2300ad-come-to-mongoose.125015/

Hopefully it means that more options for new T2K sourcebooks and adventures

[Mahatatain]

Interesting. It looks to me from reading that thread that Mongoose are more interested in 2300 AD.

[Tegyrius]

I have mixed feelings about this. Mongoose has enjoyed clear commercial success with their Trav license, and ISTR it does a pretty good job of capturing the spirit of the originals. In the books I've examined, though, the production quality wasn't the greatest... especially their copyediting.

- C.

[Red Diamond]

I just bought 4e! Damn it!
I hope they don't come up with a new system and rule books, etc.

[Claidheamh]

This is from the Mongoose forums:

Twilight: 2000
Twilight: 2000 is currently published by the frankly stellar people at Free League. We have had conversations with them and not only will Twilight: 2000 continue to be published by Free League for the current licence period, as things stand we have every expectation it will stay in their capable hands beyond that.

So it seems that they are intending to hold the license but leave game production to Free League.

[Raellus]

DISCLAIMER: I am neither an employee of GDW/FFE or FL, nor am I a copyright lawyer, and this post should not be interpreted as either legal advice or official corporate policy.


I have some recent experience as a T2k content creator to share that might shed light on the current arrangement. The following applies only to fan-created materials for sale, as copyright law comes into play for these commercial products.

Before the license transfer from Marc Miller to Mongoose, new 1-2.2e products had to be cleared by him. He personally vetted them. If Marc was dissatisfied with an element, he'd kick it back for edits until he was. Only then would he allow publication, and FFE took a cut of the profits.

4e was- and still is- a different beast, and new products could be published and sold through the Free League Workshop program. AFAIK, Free League doesn't do any pre-publication vetting whatsoever. Of course, FL also takes a cut of the profits from 4e products.

Presently, any 1-2.2e products for sale have to be cleared by Mongoose. Even products for 4e that use specific elements of 1-2.2e canonical products
(unit designations/locations, for example) need to clear those elements with Mongoose.

AFAIK, nothing has changed for how new fan-made 4e commercial products are published and sold.

So, not much has changed, really. It's just now any new commercial 1-2.2e products need to be cleared by Mongoose instead of GDW/FFE (Marc Miller).

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[Adm.Lee]

I've seen something like this referred to as a "succession plan": so that the games' rights don't die with their owner or creator. I think that's what's happened here?

[Ursus Maior]

I've seen something like this referred to as a "succession plan": so that the games' rights don't die with their owner or creator. I think that's what's happened here?

That's my understanding, too. Mark Miller seems to still care passionately about the old GDW products and he wants to see them in good hands. My personal dealings with Mongoose were always positive, I wrote some articles in their second JTAS installment. From what I perceived, Mark and Mongoose also get along very well.