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kalos72 03-04-2014 07:20 AM
But we wont... :(

kato13 03-04-2014 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Panther Al (Post 58396)
For what its worth, we already are technically (The US that is) required by treaty to send in troops in support of the Ukraine.

Back when the old USSR broke up, they wound up with a lot of Nukes: In exchange for giving them up, we, along with 6 others - including Russia - agreed that should *anybodies* armed forces move in, the countries that signed on would come in and put a stop to it with all the force required.
It was never submitted to nor ratified by the Senate so it is NOT a treaty the US is bound by. I was really surprised by that fact.

stormlion1 03-04-2014 09:49 AM
If there is a treaty to aid the Ukraine isn't the other signers required to send aid? Sure the US may not have ratified it, but did the other signers? Because if they did sign and they don't send troops. Its just a piece of worthless paper.

RN7 03-04-2014 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by stormlion1 (Post 58405)
If there is a treaty to aid the Ukraine isn't the other signers required to send aid? Sure the US may not have ratified it, but did the other signers? Because if they did sign and they don't send troops. Its just a piece of worthless paper.
Treaty or not no country in its right mind is going to send military forces into the middle of the Ukraine and confront the Russians.

kalos72 03-04-2014 11:20 AM
As we tend to do...we promised something and dont follow through. And we wonder why the world is slowly turning against us. :(

Why make promises you KNOW you wont keep...

Nowhere Man 1966 03-04-2014 08:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Panther Al (Post 58396)
For what its worth, we already are technically (The US that is) required by treaty to send in troops in support of the Ukraine.

Back when the old USSR broke up, they wound up with a lot of Nukes: In exchange for giving them up, we, along with 6 others - including Russia - agreed that should *anybodies* armed forces move in, the countries that signed on would come in and put a stop to it with all the force required.
Good point, but I doubt we, or anyone will. Chuck's #2 Law: Treaties are made to be broken. Hate to be cynical but they don't work or otherwise thing change to where they are useless. I think it was a mistake for the Ukraine to give up their nukes.

Chuck

StainlessSteelCynic 03-04-2014 11:55 PM
On a perhaps related note, a Russian "numbers" radio station had a change in its broadcasts at the end of February.
It's not particularly interesting to hear but as one of the comments on YouTube states, "The timing of this is unsettling".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyJsG3v6mks#t=12

More info on the station concerned, UVB-76
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UVB-76


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