I dont live in fear - and not in any way trying to hurt you - and if I have I completely apologize

and if you dont share my opinion that is also fine - I love boards like this where all opinions are welcome and where, as long as you do it respectfully, you are free to disagree with others

its what makes it a great place to have discussions

by the way if you really want fear mongering just go to over to CNN

someone needs to take a breath there

http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/24/opinio...own/index.html

You've misunderstood, Olefin. You and the others not only haven't hurt me, you cannot hurt me. :) I'm simply worried that you and the others are hurting yourselves, unnecessarily, worrying about these things.T2K is an awesome game, my favorite of RPGs, I love the ideas and questions it poses, about the darkest fears of people like me that grew up in the Cold War.

The real world has many, many real problems, and I think one of the biggest problems is the apocalyptic mindset. If it's all going to end, then we don't have to solve any problems, do we?

I grew up in a family that specialized in emotional abuse. It was a rule of fear, by a coward that couldn't face his own shortcomings, and the fact that his own choices led everyone around him to ruin. I survived. The biggest thing I've learned in life is that, no matter what color, creed, sexuality, or nationality we are, there are only 2 kinds of people:

You can build up the ones around you,

or

you can tear them down.

I'm doing my best in my life to build others up. But I'm starting to wonder here - threads about "Sovereign citizens". Threads about "prepping". Now, the push in this thread that the End is Nigh. It's just sad. There are some great people here, fine minds, creative writers.

It's sad to see the doom-'n-gloom. :(

This is not correct. The Ukrainian government had decided to cancel the long-term lease and tell the Russians to leave after a grace period of a few years. Those few years were deemed sufficient for the Russians to pack up and go home whereupon the base was most likely going to be taken over by the Ukrainian navy.

I think anyone who's been on this forum for a couple of years knows exactly who you're talking about and why they don't show their face here any more.

I agree completely. For example, ISIS' endgame is provoking its own version of prophesied Armageddon, and we've all seen the heinous things that it's done trying to bring that about. The apocalyptic mindset is nihilistic and pessimistic and leads to fear bordering on paranoia.

Boys, I have to carry Pepper Spray to check the mail. My life and virtue are regularly threatened on teh Interwebs, the GOP candidates go to rallies in a town 45 minutes away to hear a preacher say that folks like me should be slaughtered without trial as "an affront to Gawd", and my GF's parents belong to a church that says we aren't even human.

You want to worry about existential threats? Be my guest. Perhaps Straight white men *should* spend more time being afraid, but I truly don't wish that.

What can I say? People are stupid... :(

However, that said, all bronies should be put down for their own good. ;)

Nope that not fear mongering that just makeing headlines to get more viewers to drive up your revenues :D

Who asked you? Seriously, Y'all can sit and have your End-of-the-World circlejerk.

At least Global Thermonuclear War would shut every man's spewhole.

Actually

"Fear mongering is the use of fear to influence the opinions and actions of others towards some specific end. The feared object or subject is sometimes exaggerated, and the pattern of fear mongering is usually one of repetition, in order to continuously reinforce the intended effects of this tactic, sometimes in the form of a vicious circle."

Aww shit, now you've done it Leg, you've initiated war between us and ponies and you know they have better technology than ISIS...





http://i2.wp.com/media.boingboing.ne...size=400%2C518

Now I need a bit of clarification
 

I would like to know the name of the person you indicate is a Preacher and what he said and when.
I would like to know which GOP candidates were at such a sermon and when.
I would like to know which church states that you are not human.
I would like to know why you posted that Straight white men should be afraid.
And I would like to know if your post is or is not a doom and gloom as you stated you did not like them.

And Now
 

I would like to know if you think this is constructive discussion?

We've wandered a LOOOOOONG way off of the topic of current events in its proper scale.

I think we all need to take a deep collective breath and calm down.

Uncle Ted

Ah reason
 

Thank You Sir

I have no problem with Turkey shooting down the Russian aircraft. The Russians were given fair warning, both just before the shoot-down and on previous occasions, and it's well known that they just love to push boundaries when it comes to other nations' airspace. So I say suck it, Russia. Arrogant pricks.

The deaths of one, probably both pilots, that's likely a war crime and I'm not down with that. The destruction of the Russian helo sent in to rescue the pilots? Also suck Russia, suck it hard. The fact that the rebels used a TOW missile to finish off the helo brings me just a little extra piece of joy. Does it sting Russia? Mmm, yes. Yes it does, doesn't it? Feel the sting, Putin, you monomaniacal murderous savage.

Trigger for WWIII? I doubt it. Russia will stew on this and try to find some way to give Turkey a punch in the face right back, try to regain some badly dented prestige. I await their reaction with interest.

The Russian plane was only in Turkish airspace for 17 seconds apparently. The Turkish planes shot it down while it was in Syrian airspace.
The video showing the destruction of the helicopter isn't particularly conclusive either - there was little evidence to say where or when the video was taken. It could be just more propaganda by either side. The Russians to justify striking back, and the rebels to say "look what we can do".

I'll be waiting a few more days (at least) before making judgement.

That's ok, we've got our specially trained brigade of drop bears to infiltrate their lines. ;)

Sorry Leg, drop bears are considered to violate the Geneva and Hague conventions...didn't you get the memo? :D

Australia hasn't signed the full document. If our enemy isn't following the convention, then we don't have to either.
And I think we almost all agree that Bronies are a war crime in and of themselves. :D

Russia still has problems with it's military, there's a reason Cubans were brought in to crew the armor. Putin will use the time of Western weakness to gain strength and influence.

Apparently, one of the SU-24 crewmen was rescued. This piece is a concise update/analysis of the developing situation.

http://news.yahoo.com/russian-pilot-...101718676.html

That definitely changes the info that was being provided to us initially, even if it came from sources apparently closer to the situation. Just proves that even those sources claiming special insight don't always know the full story and the rush to get all "doom & gloom" is a bit premature.

Absolutely. Virtually everything we've had so far is basically just opinion and certainly should not be taken as law. Only time will show us the truth.

Well credit where it's due to the surviving SU-24 pilot - he must have been paying close attention during his E&E training. Hiding in the woods and remaining uncaptured until the rescue team got him out. Respect.

Drop bears are in that gray area of the Convention, like .50 Cal Raufoss rounds and tear gas.

And they're also just a native animal like moose in Canada, or lions in Africa. So what if they've been intensively trained into weapons of war?

Saw this and lol.

More people are killed by Moose in Canada than guns. Look it up.

:cool:

Yeah, but...
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