Ah Pippa! Such a lovely dress....and all I can think about is....what was underneath? :evilgrinb

One commentator called her "the hottest maid-of-honor in the world."

Not only one. A french commentator made almost the same statement.;)

To push it slightly back on track... er... *looks at pics* um... Yeah, back on track. Yeah.

Anyways, dunno who all reads the The Whiteboard, but the best joke I have heard yet about it was told there:

Refering to the burial at sea, the real reason is they didn't want Elton John showing up and singing "A sandal in the Bin.."

Reference to OBL's burial at sea.....I wonder who signed off on the environmental impact statement?

Such a lovely...err dress!!!!

I bet Harry has an interest

Don't worry. The remains dispersed pretty quickly once the sharks smelled the bourbon-infused bacon shroud.

- C.

Made Harry's date look frumpy! And did you see that stupid hat that Princess Beatrice was wearing... wtf!!


http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/sit...264555_a_l.jpg

I heard one person comment that it looks like a toilet seat...

Oh I don't know. I thought Beatrice's hat was an inspired choice. It drew attention away from her powerfully ugly face.

I remember waking up after a glorious party, hung-over like you wouldn't belive....and I swear I saw that hat coming out of the wall after me!!!

The horror, the horror!

Won't do, just won't do....now you have PO'ed the animal rights activatists for feeding booze and jacking the cholestral count on those poor sharks!!!!

Well, you could make chum by tossing his body, a dog corpse, a pig corpse, a few frogs, and some used feminine hygiene products through a Troy-bilt chipper/shredder to make everything quite unclean--for eternity.

I might misunderstand what I'm reading but I have the troubling feeling that this last comment should have been avoided.:confused:

Osama bin Laden- World Hide-and-Seek champion 2001-2011
 

An anagram of Osama bin Laden is
lob da man in sea.

Then there is the new special at Starbucks, the bin Latte:

Tall, skinny, quite dark with a frothy head with two shots in it!

Well, there was an ole NYPD ditty that went along the lines of...

"Twice to the chest and twice to the head and the asshole will be dead, dead, dead!"


Or to quote an old Army buddy...

"They should have flex-corded him to a satchel charge with a two-minute fuse...that would have been justice!"


On the other hand, we have a Vietnam era former SEAL...who is cheerfully accepting drinks from everyone in the office....in honor of his fellow SEALS...the SOB won't be sober enough to work until some time in mid-2012!!!!

If the comment troubles you, Mohoender, you understand the concept behind it--to truly tick off Osama's friends in a really lasting personally and culturally-specific offensive manner. Whether it would make them think twice about ever dealing harshly again with the crazy defiling infidels--who knows, it might. Unfortunately, it would probably also make our Muslim _friends_ very unhappy too.

There are bits and pieces of about 3000 Americans that were buried with the wreckage of the result of Osama's whims, because they couldn't be separated from the ruins. They wouldn't be too happy about what happened to them, or the manner in which it happened. Some of those killed were Muslim, so OBL gains no points for being a hero of his supposed religion, which has no bearing on the actual contents of the Qu'ran.

While I don't support the vengeance/revenge motive behind most comments about bin Laden's death (especially the dancing in the streets which just makes Americans look exactly like the badguys who danced in the streets when they displayed the bodies of US pilots shot down in Iraq), I am broadly in agreement with what WallShadow has said except for one point.
The death toll for the September 11th attacks wasn't approximately 3000 Americans. Although citizens of the USA obviously make up the majority of victims (approximately 2600) some 12% were foreign nationals. Ninety two countries lost people in those attacks, the United Kingdom alone losing over 60 people and India losing 41.

Obviously, yes I did. Altough my comment was in no way a defense of "Bin Machin", it simply comes from a simple fact: no reason to give way to hatred.

He is dead, fine.
May he rest in hell (I don't believe in that but fine).
About those who died from his exactions, may they rest in peace. They need your respect and consideration, not your hatred.

Thank you for reminding that.

Wow: Even the Wall Street Journal is cracking jokes on Bin Laden.

In the best of the web feature for Friday, at the end of it there is a discussion on an article from London's Guardian reporting that Laden overpaid for his place: The Administration claimed it was a million buck place, the local appraisers say its closer to a quarter of that.

So, the journals writer points out that:

"Assuming bin Laden made the customary 20% down payment and took out a mortgage for $800,000 in 2005, he's going to be underwater for a long time."

For the WSJ....that's almost funny!

That gives me an idea for a really bad film base on several classically bad films:

"They Saved Hitler's Brain and Grafted It onto Bin Laden's Body" or, "The Thing with 1 1/2 Heads", with guest appearances by Rosie Greer and Ray Milland.

We can premier it in Allahabad. It'll be a smash hit, don'tcha think?:D

Oooooo, quoting a spammer..... :(

Still, I can see it coming out as a B movie in the near future.

Starring Leonardo and Angeline...

When I heard he was unarmed, I immediately thought of Unforgiven;
Hackman: "You just shot an unarmed man!"
Eastwood: "Well he should have armed himself."

That's a very good line....and since there were AKs in the room, maybe UBL was trying to go for one when he got double-tapped.

Btw, some sites are saying that the weapon used to eliminate UBL was the HK-416.

Free steak and doggie treats for life for the German Shepherd or Belgian Malinois that accompanied the raiders, I say.

I heard a few days ago that UBL was actually going for a weapon when he was killed. How true that is given the previous statement that he was cowering behind his wife.....
My guess is that he simply looked at a disposable plastic picnic knife that just happened to be in the room, which was just enough justification to warrant a bullet to the forehead. Given his reputation, etc I doubt it would have taken much more than that for the trigger to have been pulled.

From quotes I've read from US politicians who have seen photos of OBL's corpse the bullet that killed him entered one eye and exited his ear. Now that's shooting!

To be a shot like that, it would have had to been an angle shot, and would have been a left eye to right ear, or vice versa.

Though honestly, there are still numerous different iterations coming out of what happened, I doubt we will truly know, but I have to link this, if only for the chuckle.

http://trekmovie.com/2011/05/06/gema...laden-mission/

I have no clue and no comment on Bin machin's death and, I'll probably won't have any viable opinion before 70 years (at which point I'll be dead:dead:).

However, when I look at the picture showing Obama and his staff watching the intervention, I can help it but to think that something didn't go as planned:hmh:.

From what I can gather from my reading, one of our choppers malfunctioned as they got to UBL's hidey hole. So, the "Plan" went out the window.

Who was it that said "In combat, a plan is great until there is contact with the enemy"? This may be a mis-quote on my part, but I think the point gets across.

My two cents!

Mike

And to add insult to injury, two more jerks got tagged for pretending to be SEALs....one even discribed a Steven Segal movie plot to his home town paper, claiming to have really done this.

Guess the wannabes will be coming out of the woodwork now!

Supposedly the heavily modified "stealth" Blackhawk crashed after hitting some sort of turbulence caused by the tall walls of the complex.

I'm sure when the news came through that a chopper had crashed during the op, Obama & co. had flashbacks to the Desert One debacle.

I would tend to think *everyone* involved had that flashback hit them at that moment.

Best guess so far for the cause of the helo crash is "vortex ring"- where, when descending in the hover, the air that goes down through the rotors cannot disperse (trapped by a confined space, for example) and flows up and around the outside, then back down again, so the helicopter rotor is trying to fly in a column of air that is falling much faster. Think of it like trying to actually gain height on a Stairmaster and you've got the picture...
The only way to avoid a crash when this happens is to fly forward out of the falling column of air- but if you're trying to descend into a confined space like a compound with high walls you're stuffed!
This is of course only my guess- it fits the reported facts, but it could be completely wrong.

You'd think that given they'd run through the op on a 1:1 model of the complex, they'd have been aware of the turbulence issue and modified their plan accordingly.

Personally, I'm of the opinion that the US don't want to admit that somebody on the ground got lucky and slotted a bullet or two into something vital during the approach. Seems faaaaaaar more likely than a mechanical fault kicking in at that last critical moment, or "turbulence" they should have known about.

I found that explanation quite helpful, Sanjuro. Thanks.

@Leg: It's possible ground fire played a roll in the 'copter's crash but most reports indicate that very little return gunfire was received during the whole of the operation. From what I've read, it seems as though the compound guards were taken completely by surprise. Initial reports suggested a 40 minute gun battle occured after the SEALs arrived. More recent reports indicate that no such gun battle occured and that the compound guards where taken out quickly and without much in the way of resistance.

It doesn't make sense that the government would lie about the cause of the crash. In fact, a helicopter lost to enemy fire would make the raid seem more daring and dangerous and go some way to add justification, in part, to the shooting of an apparently unarmed Bin Laden.

Keep in mind that the fiery crash at Desert One was also due not to ground fire but due to difficult flying conditions, mechanical issues, and possibly pilot error.

I'm still very skeptical about the whole thing. Helicopters aren't silent, no matter how anyone might hope so. I'm sure they would have had at least a few moments notice - just long enough for a couple of people (it would only take one) to grab an AK and let loose a burst or two into the air.

As for why they might keep the true cause of the crash a secret, who knows? Just look at the changing information the US has been releasing in the days since the op - UBL was shot while unarmed but resisting in a fashion dangerous to the seals for example... huh? Was he using harsh language, waving his beard at them in a threatening manner? It just doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

Obviously the downed heli wasn't included in the scripted press release and they've had to make changes to their story on the fly. The same probably goes for UBL's death, real, staged or otherwise. Basically, the way it's all happened has created fertile ground for dozens of conspiracy theories - where's the body for example? "The photos showing his death have been doctored", etc...

Realistically only those few dozen people on the ground at the time truely know what really happened, and they're extremely unlikely to be speaking up any time soon.

Personally I believe they toasted his arse, as to lie about it now (for propaganda purposes) runs the risk of serious egg on face latter on. It's not beyond the realms of possibility though that they've smuggled his still breathing body off to a deep dark hole somewhere for interrogation. Same ultimate result though - his body feeding the fishes five minutes after his usefulness is at an end.

Of course there is some level of conspiracy (in fact, secrecy) and, in France, we call that "raison d'état". In 1998, I was finishing my bachelor in modern history at the American University of Paris. We were prosecuting Papon (for his action during ww2) and Miterrand had just declared that the archives would be made available to the public. It was true but for 5% of them. As a good historian, my teacher asked for access to these 5% (after all, the French president had just said that free access will be given to them). On the next day, he received a call from the minister of interior affairs asking him not to try to go any further or he would be thrown out of the country.


Right

Then, they would have executed his wife or americans are the most stupid people on the planet (and you know I doubt it).:D