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Tegyrius 12-18-2008 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by kato13
Didn't see his name mentioned in the summary.

The reviewer at Flames Rising is my age. We woulda been about ten years old when that review was published.

- C.

JimmyRay73 12-18-2008 11:09 PM

Hmm, something about that review just makes me think "I'm gonna wait and see for myself." Kinda like when people said Daniel Craig couldn't be Bond because he was blonde...

Twilight has always had its good and its bad points over the years, I'll wait to pass judgement on the new version til I can see it myself. Gimme a week or two and then I promise I'll tell y'uns what I like and don't like. I'm hoping for more on the "like" side of the chart.

kato13 12-18-2008 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by kato13
http://index.rpg.net/display-article...rticleid=12350

Didn't see his name mentioned in the summary.

Greg Porter considered it "A tragic waste of 18 bucks". I guess I know not to trust his reviews blindly. The 18 dollars that constituted that expenditure probably gave me more enjoyment than any other dollar I ever spent.

Decided to follow up on Greg Porter since the name sounded really familiar and WOW!. He wrote both Guns Guns Guns and CORPS both of which I consider to be the best in their class as far as RPGs go. I really want to see his full T2k review now since I am finding it difficult to reconcile the fact that I really respect both works.

headquarters 12-19-2008 01:09 AM

yeah
 
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Originally Posted by pmulcahy11b
You know, I've seen a review of the original T2K, about 20 years ago, using just about the same words and criticisms, in a Space Gamer magazine. Wonder if it's the same reviewer.

BTW, I'm looking over 2013 bit by bit as strength allows. It's surprising how quickly I get tired these days. I can do a little house-dusting and feed my guys (that's how I refer to my dogs as a group) and I'm wiped out.


hang in there man . hope you get more strength with the new year .

Rainbow Six 12-19-2008 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by pmulcahy11b
You know, I've seen a review of the original T2K, about 20 years ago, using just about the same words and criticisms, in a Space Gamer magazine. Wonder if it's the same reviewer.

BTW, I'm looking over 2013 bit by bit as strength allows. It's surprising how quickly I get tired these days. I can do a little house-dusting and feed my guys (that's how I refer to my dogs as a group) and I'm wiped out.

I also remember a review of the original T2K in White Dwarf, (which was published by Games Workshop iirc and at the time was probably the most widely read RPG magazine in the UK) which slated the original T2K for a whole host of reasons. Reviewer was, I think, Marcus someone...Rollins, Rowland, something like that...

And echoing the good wishes to you Paul...hope you feel better soon...

pmulcahy11b 12-19-2008 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Rainbow Six
I also remember a review of the original T2K in White Dwarf, (which was published by Games Workshop iirc and at the time was probably the most widely read RPG magazine in the UK) which slated the original T2K for a whole host of reasons. Reviewer was, I think, Marcus someone...Rollins, Rowland, something like that...

And echoing the good wishes to you Paul...hope you feel better soon...

Might have been White Dwarf. These days I'm lucky if I can remember anything for 20 minutes, let alone 20 years...

As an aside, there was this female lab tech who's come up every two days to get blood and urine samples when I was in the hospital. She was so excited the first time she came up -- she said, "It's snowing in Houston! It's snowing in Louisiana! I wish it would snow here!"

I said, "Don't you remember when it snowed here in '86?"

She said, "I was born in 1986."

God I felt old...I was a 21-year old National Guardsman in 1986...

Jason Weiser 12-19-2008 05:10 AM

Paul...you're not old...just "very experienced" (from a guy who has a sister who's a college freshman and a brother who's a sophomore in HS).

kato13 12-19-2008 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by kato13
Decided to follow up on Greg Porter since the name sounded really familiar and WOW!. He wrote both Guns Guns Guns and CORPS both of which I consider to be the best in their class as far as RPGs go. I really want to see his full T2k review now since I am finding it difficult to reconcile the fact that I really respect both works.

The writer of the Space gamer review and the writer of review quoted by LAW are each credited with an edition of the same book.

Macho Women With Guns
1st ed by Greg Porter (1988) self-published
3rd ed (1994) BTRC
4th ed by James Desborough (2003) Mongoose Publishing

I would guess they have a similar writing style, if one chose to republish the others work. Your memory may have been better than you thought Paul.

Grimace 12-19-2008 10:27 PM

I read through the review, and the comments. Most of the comments were of the type that's so typical of the "shoot from the hip" thought patterns that permeate so many sites. People seem to be more interested in seeing themselves spout drivel than actually thinking about the meaning of their posts.

A couple of the comments did stand out, including the last one (at the moment) from Kevin O'neill. That name is SOOOO familiar, but I can't place where I've heard it before. I could have sworn he was a Twilighter from the old boards. Do any of you happen to recognize the name?

kato13 12-20-2008 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Grimace
A couple of the comments did stand out, including the last one (at the moment) from Kevin O'neill. That name is SOOOO familiar, but I can't place where I've heard it before. I could have sworn he was a Twilighter from the old boards. Do any of you happen to recognize the name?

http://rpg.drivethrustuff.com/produc...views_id=18942

Here is a review at Drive through RPG. He says he discussed it on T2k forums but I dont remember the name and he is not on my MIA list.

Earthpig 12-20-2008 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Twilight2000v3MM
Chicks dig big......


Bank Accounts:D

Earthpig 12-20-2008 07:13 AM

:(
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Originally Posted by pmulcahy11b
Might have been White Dwarf. These days I'm lucky if I can remember anything for 20 minutes, let alone 20 years...

As an aside, there was this female lab tech who's come up every two days to get blood and urine samples when I was in the hospital. She was so excited the first time she came up -- she said, "It's snowing in Houston! It's snowing in Louisiana! I wish it would snow here!"

I said, "Don't you remember when it snowed here in '86?"

She said, "I was born in 1986."

God I felt old...I was a 21-year old National Guardsman in 1986...


One of my good friends just retired from the National Guard.....people were the same rank as him,E-6, who weren't born on his DOR(date of Rank):D ......You know it's time to get out then:)

P.S. Get better soon dude....It's no joy funning Airborne guys if they're hurtin':(

kato13 12-22-2008 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Targan
There is a constantly updated errata at the 93Games Studio forums.

http://93gamesstudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=952

Here it is in case anyone needs it.

Thought I had an addition due to the explanation of pre term background skills being expressed two different ways, but they really are the same.

(((9+Cog)-3) + (2*3 for Language)) = ((6+ Cog) +6 for Language)

Have only scratched the surface of character creation but it seems interesting and certainly addresses some weaknesses of the older T2k system.

pmulcahy11b 12-22-2008 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Earthpig
P.S. Get better soon dude....It's no joy funning Airborne guys if they're hurtin':(

Personally, I'm all in favor of kicking a man when he's down -- that's the best time to do it! :p


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