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jester 02-11-2009 03:40 AM

Well your PCs can end up like the guy in the 80s classic,

"I'm gonna git you sucka!"

Where the guy loads up with all manner of weapons and then walks out and steps on a loose shotgun shell and goes down,

"Bang! BOMM POP! POW! CRACK! ZING" and the arseanal he loaded up goes off for several minutes.


As for me if I were playing me as who I am now, not as a burnt out infantry type, but a fat civilian slob with a medical skill plus some law enforcement background, first I'd expect to ride rather than walk otherwise watch my kit get ALOT lighter.

But, a carbine of some form would be the order of the day, with half a dozen or so magazines.

1 pistol on the thigh of my primary gun hand. full sized like a glock 17

1 pistol in a behind the back waistband holster glock 19

Another one in the medic case glock 19

As for a foot slogging rifleman, a glock 19 class or even a makarov would be nice to have but not essential.

It all depends on the mission and the character of course.

Legbreaker 02-11-2009 04:14 AM

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Originally Posted by pmulcahy11b
Ahh, that picture brings back memories, Devil...large swaths of both Ft Benning and Ft Stewart look like that. At Benning, they even have a "Swamp Obstacle Course" and it's just what it sounds like!

Piffle!
I've been through Canungra and survived...
I've also been married to a redhead. Not sure which was tougher.... :S

jester 02-11-2009 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Legbreaker
Piffle!
I've been through Canungra and survived...
I've also been married to a redhead. Not sure which was tougher.... :S


Pauls terrain looked mighty flat, and thus not that challenging really ;)


As for a redhead, they do have tempers but that also equates to something else as well at the oposite end of the spectrum ;)

Targan 02-11-2009 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by headquarters
I just remembered The Boondock Saints - a movie about some guys shooting alot of people - there is this one guy with a custom vest that holds about 10guns or so .In addition he could also carry 2 more in thigh holsters ,a few in his coat pockets etc.

That was a great scene. The character with all the handguns was played by Billy Connolly. Willem Dafoe played the flamingly queer detective. I loved that film.

TiggerCCW UK 02-11-2009 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by jester
Well your PCs can end up like the guy in the 80s classic,

"I'm gonna git you sucka!"

Where the guy loads up with all manner of weapons and then walks out and steps on a loose shotgun shell and goes down,

"Bang! BOMM POP! POW! CRACK! ZING" and the arseanal he loaded up goes off for several minutes.

I'd just thought of using that as an example! Glad I'm not the only one who remembers the risks of over golding!

Regarding what you mentioned about the carbine, Ruger do a couple of carbines (PC-9 possibly?) that use the same mags as some of their pistols. Available in 9mm and .40 iirc, use the pistol mags with capacity in the region of 15 rounds, plus I think you can get extended 30 round mags. Always thought this might be handy in Twilight, but can't remember much about the weapons - think they might be on Paul's website though.

jester 02-11-2009 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by TiggerCCW UK
I'd just thought of using that as an example! Glad I'm not the only one who remembers the risks of over golding!

Regarding what you mentioned about the carbine, Ruger do a couple of carbines (PC-9 possibly?) that use the same mags as some of their pistols. Available in 9mm and .40 iirc, use the pistol mags with capacity in the region of 15 rounds, plus I think you can get extended 30 round mags. Always thought this might be handy in Twilight, but can't remember much about the weapons - think they might be on Paul's website though.


Yo yo yo nottin wrong wit being OG! G!


As for the Ruger, I kinda remember something like that, but I remember Marlins Camp Carbine more. It came in 2 calibers, the 9mm and the .45 ACP, the 9mm used Smith and Wesson double stack magazines which come in 10 to 30 round capacities. The .45 used 1911 magazines and those can be had in 30 round capacities as well, although the 20 rounders are more commonly available. And I did use one as a NPCs weapon in my South Western Campaign that was short lived back in 04.

General Pain 02-11-2009 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by FMDeCorba
Thank you!
I am not in favour of swamping the game with various penalty tables based on number of weapons, skillets or ghettoblasters carried on person or levels of discomfort etc.(this, by the way shouldn´t be determined by a base score IMO, it´s uncomfortable wearing many metal objects whether you are very agile or not), or reducing the game exclusively to a question of "realism".
However, the overall determining factor of player behaviour in this respect is incentive . If it generally pays (XP-wise or character survivability)to carry a platoons worth of ammo, heavy armor etc., then that practice will continue. If professional (or at least matching our understanding of such) soldiering is rewarded, it´s highly probable you will see more of that.

Looking forward to the next session and impact of the new house damage rules BTW:)

You would to carry loads of weapons,ammo and general distrust in heavy batlle armor if you played General Pain...take it from me...I know....My wall of assasin attempts in the Library Tower is now 2 located on 2 floors.

Ass for the ass "comment" it was a really funny SHITuation...it still makes me chuckle....just like the time Steinkopf (god rest his soul) was beeing executed for treason in HQs WW2 campagin , he survived the first shot(s) and asked for the priest ,the priest came and he headbutts the priest whereupon the soldiers start firing again not stopping before their clips ran out.

FMDeCorba 02-11-2009 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by General Pain
You would to carry loads of weapons,ammo and general distrust in heavy batlle armor if you played General Pain...take it from me...I know....My wall of assasin attempts in the Library Tower is now 2 located on 2 floors.
Ass for the ass "comment" it was a really funny SHITuation...it still makes me chuckle....just like the time Steinkopf (god rest his soul) was beeing executed for treason in HQs WW2 campagin , he survived the first shot(s) and asked for the priest ,the priest came and he headbutts the priest whereupon the soldiers start firing again not stopping before their clips ran out.

Yes I probably would do like General Pain if I was General Pain, thankfully, I´m not. Only a comic-book character like that would think it was really funny with some other characters ass-gun, and at the same time completely forget that he had one jammed up there himself throughout that session:D

headquarters 02-17-2009 02:50 AM

penalty
 
last FtF a player had something like 1 AK,1 Bizon SMG,2 pc. of 10 gage sawed off shotguns,1 .666 custom made Desert Eagle,and one antimaterial rifle in addition to body armour and ammo.(No names mentioned of course ).

Considering this over the top in all ways, I let the player skip a round now and then as his character got tangled in various straps and gun butts engulfing him .

For the munchkin who does not seem to grasp the nuances here I believe ingame penalties such as these can have educational effect .

Anyways - good session though .

TiggerCCW UK 02-17-2009 03:18 AM

I once had a player try to convince me that he could conceal a gimpy by tucking it down his trouser leg! I also played in a Cthulhu game where a player wanted to mount a .30 Browning M1919 mg on the roof of a model t ford for cultist hunting.....

jester 02-17-2009 04:15 AM

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Originally Posted by TiggerCCW UK
I once had a player try to convince me that he could conceal a gimpy by tucking it down his trouser leg! I also played in a Cthulhu game where a player wanted to mount a .30 Browning M1919 mg on the roof of a model t ford for cultist hunting.....


The gimpy, was it down his leg while he was laying down in a bed with a blanket over him? Or was it just a simple trenchcoat?


As for the model T and a 1919, that sounds utterly plausible!

Targan 02-17-2009 04:27 AM

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Originally Posted by jester
As for the model T and a 1919, that sounds utterly plausible!

Yeah, I've played a bit of 1920s-1930s CoC and I wish I'd thought of that! Sounds cool.

TiggerCCW UK 02-17-2009 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by jester
The gimpy, was it down his leg while he was laying down in a bed with a blanket over him? Or was it just a simple trenchcoat?


As for the model T and a 1919, that sounds utterly plausible!

Sadly nothing that sensible. It was to be tucked down a trouser leg while he walked through a check point. Even Rolf Harris wouldn't have got away with that as Jake The Peg!

I just mentioned Rolf Harris on a T2K board - not something you do every day?

One of the many issues I had with the MG armed Model T was that he wanted to mount it on the sun roof. I don't think he was very familiar with cars of the 1920's!

jester 02-17-2009 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by TiggerCCW UK
Sadly nothing that sensible. It was to be tucked down a trouser leg while he walked through a check point. Even Rolf Harris wouldn't have got away with that as Jake The Peg!

I just mentioned Rolf Harris on a T2K board - not something you do every day?

One of the many issues I had with the MG armed Model T was that he wanted to mount it on the sun roof. I don't think he was very familiar with cars of the 1920's!


Gimpy;

So the character was what? 7 foot four? And had arms and legs as thick as logs? <again if it were a duster or trenchcoat it could be done for short time with little scrutiny, although personaly I'd got with an M60E3 shorter and slimmer or a SAW idealy! I could pull it off with a SAW with a standard barrel, no drum of course!

As for the sunroof! I am sure they had them. Of course it would have been a custom job done by the local mechanic, or heck a modern mechanic would do it. If he were a mechanic with a SOUL he would cry as he defiled the anvcient vehidle though. Personaly, I'd mount a brace with the pintel mount since no one knows how old, well kept or the condition of the nearly 100 year old steel fared.

TiggerCCW UK 02-17-2009 05:23 AM

Sorry, should have clarified, it was a '20's CoC game, with a new build Model T. As I said, I don't think the player really got the grasp of the 1920's!


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