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nuke11 01-31-2016 06:33 PM

4th Edition Equipment, Less-Lethal, Conducted Energy Weapons & Accessories
 
Added some less lethal options to the equipment list.

http://www.thesupplybunker.net/pdf/4th-ll-cew_rev12.pdf

ArmySGT. 02-01-2016 08:11 AM

No taser claymore?


gbmaz 02-01-2016 09:16 AM

How about the Taser Shotgun:

http://www.popsci.com/technology/art...3/shock-bullet

nuke11 02-01-2016 03:13 PM

Both of these are interesting.

The XREP seems to have fallen out of use around 2011-2012 and are collectors items. I have some information on them and I'll give it a look over to see.

As to the Shockwave that seems to have completely disappeared around 2009 and off the radar by 2011. It looks like it was a prototype in 2007-2008 and was to go into production in 2009 after some field testing. I can find any good information on it currently, but I'll keep searching.

mmartin798 02-01-2016 04:15 PM

Taser International's 2014 10-K filing shows that they still owned the Shockwave trademark, but in the sales breakdown the Shockwave was not listed. The XREP still was, but it was only 1.6% of the 2014 total.

cosmicfish 02-01-2016 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nuke11 (Post 69442)
Added some less lethal options to the equipment list.

http://www.thesupplybunker.net/pdf/4th-ll-cew_rev12.pdf

This is some cool work, but the indicated shelf lives would make them risky even if the Project deployed on schedule unless the shelf like can somehow be extended. 5 years is just not enough. Does anyone know the cause of degradation?

nuke11 02-01-2016 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cosmicfish (Post 69466)
This is some cool work, but the indicated shelf lives would make them risky even if the Project deployed on schedule unless the shelf like can somehow be extended. 5 years is just not enough. Does anyone know the cause of degradation?

I believe it is because the current cartridges are nitrogen filled, which I'm guessing slowly bleeds out over time? Now to get around the BATF regulations during the 70's and 80's that Tasers where firearms because they used gunpowder to initiate the discharge of the darts, when the Air Taser came out, it used compressed air in the cartridge. I'm guessing they switched out to nitrogen when the M18 came out in 2009, but I'm not completely sure on this at the moment, more likely it was switched out during the life of the Air Taser.

I probably should have said 5 years of shelf life after leaving an MP storage environment. I'll update this information in the document and release an update.

cosmicfish 02-01-2016 07:23 PM

If the shelf-life is due to leakage of compressed nitrogen, they will still leak even in a nitrogen-filled storage space unless the pressures are equal (and they shouldn't be!). It could also be due to corrosion of key components (which nitrogen would probably stop), metal fatigue, or battery decay (neither of which can be avoided). I am not sure there is an answer to be had on the subject in publicly-released information.


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