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General Pain 01-13-2009 03:21 AM

Ot - Dime Weapons
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dense_I...etal_Explosive

more info wanted...post links if u got em.

As a T2K-dox designer I'd like more info regarding blast radius/penetration pr kilo of "dime-weapon"

pmulcahy11b 01-13-2009 05:05 AM

Sounds like a good filler for a grenade, or even a 12-Gauge shotgun shell.

General Pain 01-13-2009 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by pmulcahy11b
Sounds like a good filler for a grenade, or even a 12-Gauge shotgun shell.

I like where you're going with this hehe ;)

Legbreaker 01-13-2009 05:53 AM

I'd like to know a lot more about the requirements for detonating such a charge before I form a solid opinion.
I can certainly see the potential though for shotshell sized (or even smaller) explosive bullets.

pmulcahy11b 01-13-2009 06:35 AM

Back when I was a young PFC in the Army, I was reading a copy of Army Times where they were talking about possible weapons for the far future (by 2100). One of them was a new sniper bullet -- a micronuke based on Californium-252. They gave the example of a 7.62mm bullet able to destroy a 3-story building. Interesting idea, but I can't see how a nuke that small could be engineered -- or why it would even be necessary. And of course, Californium-252 now costs about $100,000 per tenth of a microgram, and has a half-life measured in weeks...

General Pain 01-13-2009 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by pmulcahy11b
Back when I was a young PFC in the Army, I was reading a copy of Army Times where they were talking about possible weapons for the far future (by 2100). One of them was a new sniper bullet -- a micronuke based on Californium-252. They gave the example of a 7.62mm bullet able to destroy a 3-story building. Interesting idea, but I can't see how a nuke that small could be engineered -- or why it would even be necessary. And of course, Californium-252 now costs about $100,000 per tenth of a microgram, and has a half-life measured in weeks...

Where do they sell Californium?
How Much would a 30 round clip cost...

(probably should use single shot fire mode and no burst)

pmulcahy11b 01-13-2009 08:24 AM

Scientific institutions sell them to each other for experiments. Californium-252 can be made in most particle accelerators, but it's not easy or cheap apparently.

pmulcahy11b 01-13-2009 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by General Pain
Where do they sell Californium?
How Much would a 30 round clip cost...

(probably should use single shot fire mode and no burst)

And would the magazine require radiation shielding?

Hmmm...that would be an interesting weapon to whip up...my guess is that by FFS standards, you're looking at about a Tech Level 13-15 weapon.

Nowhere Man 1966 01-19-2009 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by General Pain
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dense_I...etal_Explosive

more info wanted...post links if u got em.

As a T2K-dox designer I'd like more info regarding blast radius/penetration pr kilo of "dime-weapon"

I once saw in "Pat Garrett's, Billy the Kid" where one guy used a shotgun with shells filled with dimes and when he fired it, you saw the dimes flying and fluttering out in slow motion, it was pretty cool.

Chuck M.

Targan 01-19-2009 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Nowhere Man 1966
I once saw in "Pat Garrett's, Billy the Kid" where one guy used a shotgun with shells filled with dimes and when he fired it, you saw the dimes flying and fluttering out in slow motion, it was pretty cool.

In one of the Young Guns films Billy the Kid (played by Emelio Estevez) fires a shotgun loaded with coins and afterwards remarks IIRC "Best $1.80 I ever spent!".

pmulcahy11b 01-19-2009 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nowhere Man 1966
I once saw in "Pat Garrett's, Billy the Kid" where one guy used a shotgun with shells filled with dimes and when he fired it, you saw the dimes flying and fluttering out in slow motion, it was pretty cool.

Chuck M.

On History International channel, I once saw a show about different Old West weapons. They tried that load on a dummy made of ballistic gelatin and clothed in typical Old West garb. The dimes didn't even penetrate the leather vest, and the ballistic gelatin damage corresponded with bruised ribs at the most.


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