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Grimace 09-14-2008 01:28 PM

Soviet ORBAT
 
Does anyone have any sort of orbat for the Soviets, broken down by units per nation/province? So basically, what units of the Soviet army were Polish, which were Bulgarian, which were Ukrainian, which were Russian and so on?

And, barring that, I'm looking for as complete a list of Soviet/Russia orbat for anywhere from 1995 to 1999. Any help would be appreciated.

Mohoender 09-15-2008 02:50 AM

Go and check that website (38 pages, too much for a copy)

http://baummil.org/

It is fairly good and hit the blue stuff on top "Armed forces of the USSR..."; it will give you some useful link. (Down from time to time so don't panic)

Here is also a good link for various OOBs

http://baummil.org/

Fusilier 09-15-2008 10:12 AM

Chico is good with this sort of thing. He's got lots of resources and skill. I think he's working on an fan-based update to the Soviet Vehicle Guide. You can start here...

http://mysite.verizon.net/vzeedox4/

There are a couple of orbats there. If it isn't what you are looking for, its on its way.

chico20854 09-21-2008 08:07 PM

My website (thanks Fusilier) has the division/army breakdown for the entire Pact worldwide. The battalion/regimental level piece (about 5-6 times as large) is still a work in progress. If you have specific questions about a unit let me know. It's based on stuff I've been translating for the last couple years from various Eastern European forums and websites.

The big task Jason & I are facing is how to reconcile the RL data I'm pulling down with the best guess (but still largely guess) that GDW made for the Soviet Vehicle Guide. One simple example is that in the late 1940s the Soviets eliminated the practice of having two units of the same type with the same unit, one with Guards in its title. GDW was unaware of this, and as a result there is a 9th Tank Division that is mentioned in a few of the Poland modules, and a 9th Guards Tank Division that is also in Poland. In as many cases as possible we'll try to transfer the history of a unit over to its RL equivalent - for example, the RL 230th Rear Area Security Division was a mobilization-only unit based in Riga, Latvia. Soviet Vehicle Guide lists 2 M-O units from the Baltic Military District - the 152nd (IRL in the Transcaucasian MD) and the 154th (which was disbanded in 1960 as part of Khruschev's cuts in the Army), and no 230th MRD. So we'll probably adopt GDW's history of one of the 152nd or 154th for the 230th. But with over 300 divisions its a going to be a total nightmare!

Mohender, the links you provided are to a hash of current and historical unit IDs and locations. The most accurate RL orbats in English on the internet are on orbat.com's forums. I've basically used them as a base and then used Russian, Hungarian, Czech, Bulgarian and Polish sites to check and fill in the missing details and confirm the information on orbat.com.

orbat.com's forum post of the Soviet 1989 orbat is at http://www.orbat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=5 .

Kato, how do you make a link hot in here???

kato13 09-21-2008 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chico20854
Kato, how do you make a link hot in here???

I think you figured it out but here is a little tutorial.


If text begins with http:// or ftp:// it will automatically become a link

http://games.juhiin.com

ftp://www.debian.com/

if you enclose with [url][/url] you can force a link without the protocol portion (http://)
games.juhlin.com

You can change the link appearance by [url=http://forum.juhlin.com]RPG Forums[/url]

RPG Forums


There are a whole bunch of other tricks (like how to indent, make lists or embed images) here.
http://forum.juhlin.com/misc.php?do=bbcode#url

Edit
I have also added the "standard editor" option to the User CP -> Edit Options ->
Message Editor Interface selection. This editor makes formatting and link/image insertion much simpler.


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