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Grimace 10-20-2012 10:52 AM

Good Luck, You're on your Own! (T2K Fanzine Thread)
I'm happy to announce the 1st Issue of the Twilight: 2000 fanzine!

Thanks to the contributions of a few people, I easily had enough material to create a decent first issue. I hope that people like it, and that it helps spur some more contributions from people for future issues!

For the time being, this file is going to be hosted on Yahoo Groups, though I have made the file viewable to all people, not just members.

Comments and suggestions are welcome, as are more contributions! You can either post on this thread, or you can email me at Twilightgrimace_at_gmail_dot_com

You can find the 1st issue here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Twilig...0Issue%201.pdf

and also here (if you don't have a Yahoo ID) https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B7K...zFGd3dIY1R3ZVk

And it is also being hosted at: http://www.pmulcahy.com/PDFs/good_lu...wn_issue_1.pdf

I hope you all enjoy!

raketenjagdpanzer 10-20-2012 10:57 AM

Can we maybe just attach it here? Yahoo makes doing stuff like this as difficult as possible and I've got enough internet identities as it is. I'd love to see it though.

Grimace 10-20-2012 11:16 AM

If I can get a moderator to assist me with that, I'd be happy to. I set the parameters on the Yahoo Group so that the files should be viewable even to non-members. - Edit: But now I see that's not working correctly. I'll see if I can fix that.

kato13 10-20-2012 11:19 AM

The file is too large given current settings for the forum. After the migration to a new domain/server things might change but for now another site is probably best.

Grimace 10-20-2012 11:56 AM

Alternate access
I've also uploaded the first issue to Google Docs (now called Google Drive:rolleyes: )

You should be able to access it at: https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B7K...zFGd3dIY1R3ZVk

So if you don't want, or don't have a Yahoo ID, you can use the above link to view the file.

B.T. 10-20-2012 12:17 PM

the alternate access works just fine! I'll be reading the 1st issue (I just had a short glance at the Table of Contents, finding some prominent names) during the next hours.

Thanks to you, personally, and to those, who contributed articles.

Very well done :cool:

Grimace 10-20-2012 12:42 PM

I've also discovered, though I'm sure some of you already know this, that if you go to the "File" menu of Google Docs and select Download, you can download the file and then you get full functionality of the bookmarks and links.

raketenjagdpanzer 10-20-2012 12:57 PM

Thank you; I got it now.

Good stuff!

Fucking Italians, destroying our ships! Grr. Imma include an attack on Italy in my T2k game :P

Cdnwolf 10-20-2012 01:27 PM

Great work....

dude_uk 10-20-2012 01:31 PM

Great work! Issue 2 when?

Don't want to be that guy. But the member of the Adjutant General's Corps on page is in fact a member of the Intelligence Corps...

Rainbow Six 10-20-2012 02:12 PM


Originally Posted by dude_uk (Post 50869)
Great work! Issue 2 when?

Don't want to be that guy. But the member of the Adjutant General's Corps on page is in fact a member of the Intelligence Corps...

That's down to me, not Grimace or James. Iirc the cap badge wasn't clear on the original photo so I assumed it was AGC (which is very close in colour to the Int Corps). I should have checked the stable belt, which makes it obvious.

Grimace 10-20-2012 03:36 PM


Originally Posted by dude_uk (Post 50869)
Great work! Issue 2 when?

I'm thinking the end of time for contributors to submit material for Issue 2 will be the End of February. Then I'll have Issue 2 out by March. If I get a sudden, massive influx of material, then I might be able to get Issue 2 out sooner.

Otherwise Issue 2 will be scheduled for sometime in March 2013.

mikeo80 10-20-2012 07:09 PM

I just got it!!!!

First glimpse or two....


I will be like the others, reading away.

Thank you all for making this a reality.

I do have an idea for a very short story. (Something on the order of a page or two)

How would you like this submitted to you?

My $0.02


Grimace 10-20-2012 07:19 PM

If you've got something you'd like to submit for the next issue, or ANY future issues, email it to Twilightgrimace_at_gmail.com (just replace the appropriate sign)

I'd love to have people submit fiction, artwork, adventures, equipment, NPCs, whatever they've got that they want to share.

Glad you like the first issue!


pmulcahy11b 10-20-2012 09:55 PM

Yahoo, GoogleDocs, Yahoo IDs?:mad:

I have a better idea. Email the mag to me and I'll put it on my site.:)

Raellus 10-20-2012 10:08 PM

Thanks for putting it all together, Grimace. It looks great. I appreciate how you added pics to my article. Well done, sir. Thanks again!

Olefin 10-21-2012 12:32 AM

Very very good stuff - a great read for sure!

Especially loved the African article by Raellus. In my opinion it was easily the equal of many of the articles published in Challenge so long ago.

Still working on my own East Africa Sourcebook and should have it ready soon - and will see about getting you something from it for the next fanzine issue. May take a piece out of it for an article - possibly on the nuclear attacks in Africa which are part of it. My sourcebook has a different approach on Kenya than what Raellus has but that is the thing that makes Twilight 2000 such a great game - i.e. that freedom to innovate within the framework of the overall design of the game and the backstory.

Cant wait for the next issue and I hope for many others as well to come!

Medic 10-21-2012 04:15 AM

Marvelous work, gentlemen. The hat is off.

HorseSoldier 10-21-2012 07:22 AM

Good stuff. I'm liking it.

headquarters 10-21-2012 07:24 AM

like you Yanks say- "ah-sum!!

well done!

Grimace 10-21-2012 10:17 AM

I'm glad you guys are liking it!

Make sure you guys spread the word about it! Tell your friends, tell people that you know used to like Twilight: 2000. Maybe it'll rekindle some interest in the game for others.

I'm sure you guys visit other places that I don't, so the more people out there spreading the word about it, the more coverage it'll get.

Hybris 10-21-2012 10:54 AM

Nice , what a treat.

schnickelfritz 10-21-2012 11:54 AM

I have 80% plus of the Challenge portfolio and have read most more times than I can count.

With few exceptions (Air Module 1-2, Red Maple, The Village, a few others) the official works don't hold much of a candle to what you guys did...no offense to any of the original authors.

Issue 1 really is that good...fantastic work all around...can't wait for issue 2!


Snake Eyes 10-21-2012 12:52 PM

Wow. Nice work.

Raellus 10-21-2012 04:43 PM


Originally Posted by pmulcahy11b (Post 50880)
I have a better idea. Email the mag to me and I'll put it on my site.:)

I like this idea. In my opinion, the more exposure the fanzine gets, the better. I'd also like to make this thread (or a similar one) a sticky so that it's always prominently displayed on this site. IIRC, Kato's forum and Paul's site usually end up near the top of the Twilight 2000 Google search results.

Grimace 10-21-2012 05:39 PM

I used the email function on this site to send to Paul, but I couldn't attach the file. I requested an email back, so then I could send the file. Just waiting on that.

I also agree, that the more places this is available, the better it'll be. Likewise, it'll be good if everyone that likes it helps spread the word about it. More views = hopefully more interest in the game
More interest = hopefully more contributors, which means more issues

So, Paul, check your email.

Raellus 10-21-2012 06:41 PM

I took the liberty of sticking this thread. I didn't consult with Kato or the other moderators so hopefully they're OK with it. If not, it might be unstuck later on.

I just want to make sure that this thread and its accompanying links to GLYOYO doesn't drop out of view over time. I'd like every new viewer to see it.

pmulcahy11b 10-21-2012 10:54 PM

I replied to Grimace. I've been asleep all day. (It happens.)

Did Time Warner not accept the email with the attachment? It would be strange; I've had people send me up to 10MB attachments.

pmulcahy11b 10-23-2012 02:09 PM

OK, here it is...


I also found that two files that are listed on the PDF page were not actually on the site, so I fixed that.

The capitalized "PDF" in the address is important -- it must be capitalized.

The PDF page in of itself is the same; just lop off the "Good Luck..." part of the address.

Olefin 10-24-2012 09:36 AM

Have a question - are you only looking for things that are new for the fanzine or can we post things there that were previously posted here?

The USN section and the Raellus piece on the 173rd had been posted here but were fleshed out for the fanzine. However there are some excellent things that have already been posted here that probably could go directly into the fanzine as is.

Stuff like:

49th Armored Division

The list of stuff that could be found by players instead of just the usual weapons, spare parts and food.

The Falklands Islands Sourcebook

Just wondering

Grimace 10-24-2012 04:57 PM

I can take things that people have done before and put up. Obviously it probably won't be as enticing for people here is it's been posted fairly recently, as it'll just be the same thing done over (unless you want to add a little more to improve upon it before submitting it).

I don't want to specifically take anything a person has put on this site. I'd rather they give me permission (as was done for the first issue), and I'd much rather they provide me with links so I don't have to go digging for things and be unsure of what stuff I have permission to use.

So you are more than welcome to submit material that's already been posted here, if you want.

Cdnwolf 10-24-2012 06:04 PM

Just a suggestion.... add the address that you wants submissions sent to as your signature. ;)

Grimace 10-24-2012 06:16 PM

I'll see how well that works. I just don't want spambots emailing me.

kato13 10-24-2012 06:35 PM

Spam bots will certainly catch that.

Make some type of substitution like


Cdnwolf 10-24-2012 06:39 PM

Another article sent to you...

Legbreaker 10-24-2012 08:08 PM

The situation with the 49th is very open to interpretation as the discussions on this site have shown - there's no way it could be simply transplanted from here without a major rewrite and rider attached stating it's just one point of view - a lot like "The Twilight War: Naval Forces by Matt Wiser" is just one point of view and has holes the size of an aircraft carrier in it based on discussions I've seen here over the years (doesn't make it wrong, just different to cannon).

Cdnwolf 10-24-2012 08:31 PM

I think we all know the canon by heart and this magazine is the chance for people to put in stuff that they think would work well in other peoples games. It is written by the people for the people.

Targan 10-24-2012 08:47 PM

I'm very supportive of the fanzine but I think it would be good to have some sort of disclaimer on articles that have content which greatly diverges from (or directly contradicts) the official published material. Otherwise readers who don't know the canon material off by heart or don't own everything ever published for T2K may assume that what they read in the fanzine fits in with the official material seamlessly.

I'm not saying that majorly divergent material shouldn't be in the fanzine (on the contrary), I'm saying that some indication that material is a major departure (in the form of a disclaimer) would be nice. The USN article in particular would benefit from this idea.

Legbreaker 10-24-2012 08:54 PM


Originally Posted by Targan (Post 51018)
I'm not saying that majorly divergent material shouldn't be in the fanzine (on the contrary), I'm saying that some indication that material is a major departure (in the form of a disclaimer) would be nice.


Grimace 10-24-2012 10:24 PM

I will add a bit at the beginning explaining that the fanzine articles are, by no means, indicative of established Twilight: 2000 and Twilight: 2013 material. Articles can certainly have content that could directly contradict material in previously published material.

I don't want to get into a big nitpicking session of what jives with established timelines and what doesn't. I don't care, honestly. Those that do care will know the difference, and those that don't care (like myself) will use what they want for their games. The last thing I want to do is start selectively denoting articles as non-supportive to official timeline. That will turn people off from submitting material. I've already told people that if others have interpretations that contradict what others have put material into the fanzine, they can still submit it. I won't put directly contradictory material in the same issue, and I'll do my best not to put contradictory material in back-to-back issues either.

I don't want to turn this fanzine into a "my material is better than your material" type of thing. Everyone's material deserves to be shown if they want to share it. It doesn't have to jive with the official timelines. It doesn't even have to jive with the official game system if someone has something for another game mechanic they want to share.

I want this fanzine to be something people can pick up, see a variety of different and hopefully intriguing ideas, and hopefully enjoy it. People are free to use, discard, or rework any of the items for their own games.

So I'll have a blanket disclaimer explaining that none of the material should be construed as official or directly in line with established timelines.

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