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Louied 06-19-2021 02:41 PM

Shameless Plug...NATO: The Cold War Goes Hot
 
As I may have mentioned, the designer, Bruce Maxwell, contacted me over a year ago to assist on the BAOR ORBAT in his game. @Jason Weiser also helped out and wrote a great review here:

https://forum.juhlin.com/showpost.ph...0&postcount=11

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/compassgames/nato

Looks to be ready for shipping end of June......

Next up will be Air & Armor: 1 BR Corps.....

Ursus Maior 06-20-2021 02:21 PM

Shiny, I got the old edition here, though I haven't played it yet.

Ursus Maior 06-24-2021 02:22 PM

Addendum:

I think Bruce Maxwell's analysis for the different possibilities of a Cold War going hot scenario during the 80s are spot on. These analysis are highly relevant for any WW3 scenario during the 90s, too, though they'd need tweaking of course, since deployments and force readiness were vastly different.

Take a look here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xn1uFsu_XJw&t=63s

It does take the fun out of thinking about T2K a bit though.

Benjamin 06-24-2021 02:35 PM

I heard rumors about this way back on consim world. The game looks great. I have three copies of the original and they’re all played rather hard. I made custom counters for other units sent to Europe for the Twilight War.

Needless to say I just backed it.

Louied 06-24-2021 11:05 PM

Another chat with Bruce about the game and a slight preview of Air & Armor BAOR

https://youtube.com/watch?v=1TyLeH9iVrM&feature=share

pmulcahy11b 06-25-2021 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Louied (Post 88397)

Looks to be ready for shipping end of June......

Unfortunately, my budget does not allow me to contribute until July. Will I still be able to contribute then?

Louied 06-25-2021 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by pmulcahy11b (Post 88447)
Unfortunately, my budget does not allow me to contribute until July. Will I still be able to contribute then?

Paul
I think the Kickstarter campaign ends tomorrow. From what I’m told Compass does these Kickstarter campaigns right before a release to generate buzz. Product is already in the warehouse and ready to be shipped, it will go back up on their website to buy direct. So you
should be able to buy in July.

Adm.Lee 07-03-2021 03:14 PM

My copy arrived this week, looks good so far. My weekly wargaming table may be able to meet soon, this will be among the first nominees to play.

Adm.Lee 07-26-2021 03:23 PM

... and we're under way with the Baltic Approaches training scenario.

This looks good!

One of my (small) beefs with the original has been addressed: the Pact armies and fronts have been sorted to match many other sources.

The sequence of play is a bit involved, and the combat sequence is very intriguing, there is some cut-and-thrust that looks good so far.

One major difference from the past edition: all NATO units are brigades or regiments, rather than divisions (with steps) and brigades.

pmulcahy11b 07-27-2021 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Louied (Post 88449)
Paul
I think the Kickstarter campaign ends tomorrow. From what I’m told Compass does these Kickstarter campaigns right before a release to generate buzz. Product is already in the warehouse and ready to be shipped, it will go back up on their website to buy direct. So you
should be able to buy in July.

Is this going to be available on Drive Thru? If not, what's the website to buy?

Adm.Lee 07-27-2021 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Louied (Post 88397)
As I may have mentioned, the designer, Bruce Maxwell, contacted me over a year ago to assist on the BAOR ORBAT in his game.

I just noticed this part. If I may ask, who or what is in the British "PRG" (Parachute Ready Group), as opposed the 1 Para Brigade?

Louied 07-28-2021 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Adm.Lee (Post 88592)
I just noticed this part. If I may ask, who or what is in the British "PRG" (Parachute Ready Group), as opposed the 1 Para Brigade?

The Parachute Regiment Group was an ad-hoc Brigade formed using the Parachute Regiment Regimetal HQ & the three TA Para Bns……
See page 46 & 126 of my document

https://www.orbat85.nl/documents/BAOR-July-1989.pdf

Prior to 1989, the original GDP 83 (1983)called for one TA Para Bn in the City with 19IB outside the City. Each year the plan was tweaked with eventually all three TA Para Bns as 19IB moved from 3AD to 4AD (circa 1986). It was quickly realized that they needed their own HQ instead of being controlled direct from 1AD.

Louied 07-28-2021 06:56 AM

One more thing, I have gotten hold of the outline GDP’s for 1 BR Corps. I am writing up a new version of my document to reflect this new information. Some information on the roles of the Armd Bdes will change as by 1989 only 7AB appears to have been the Covering Force for the Corps (that’s why it was the first to get CR1 & Warrior) & 33AB had, as it’s first task, to cover 1 BE Corps until they mobilized their Bdes from Belgium and got them on the line……
More to come!!!

Adm.Lee 07-28-2021 01:55 PM

Thanks

Ursus Maior 07-28-2021 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Adm.Lee (Post 88590)
... and we're under way with the Baltic Approaches training scenario.

This looks good!

"Under way" in what form? I haven't even received my game. Are they sending out new stuff in addition?

Adm.Lee 07-31-2021 03:01 PM

On my table; it arrived about 3-4 weeks ago.

The Baltic Approaches scenario is a small one, new to this edition of the game.


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