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General Pain 01-07-2010 06:53 AM

The joy of surviving
 
bodyarmor is allmost allways better than movability...

the rule is ...it's more fun for the gm to spray bullets against your character and hit...than to not hit...so get those old armors up ....

http://www.massobserver.com/wp-conte...or-1917-18.jpg

pmulcahy11b 01-07-2010 05:40 PM

He looks like a robot out of a 1950s sci-fi B-movie.

Cdnwolf 01-07-2010 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by general pain (Post 16288)



mrs general pain gets ready for her wedding night

JHart 01-07-2010 09:22 PM

The caption says 1917-1918, but it is more like 1817-1818 as he has a flintlock rifle on his shoulder

Legbreaker 01-07-2010 10:12 PM

That's quite possible. "Repeating" rifles had only been around as standard issue for a short period at the time of the Great War. Flintlocks, while completely unsuited to the "modern" battlefield, would probably have still been quite common in civilian hands.

pmulcahy11b 01-07-2010 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by JHart (Post 16326)
The caption says 1917-1918, but it is more like 1817-1818 as he has a flintlock rifle on his shoulder

To me, it looks like a wooden equivalent of a "rubber ducky."

General Pain 01-08-2010 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Cdnwolf (Post 16324)
mrs general pain gets ready for her wedding night

I must admit I'm a happily divorced man....

as for GP ...his latest spouse died of undisclosed reaseons...

(something like accidently cut of her head while brushing her hair)

headquarters 01-08-2010 01:53 AM

ahem..
 
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Originally Posted by General Pain (Post 16334)
I must admit I'm a happily divorced man....

as for GP ...his latest spouse died of undisclosed reaseons...

(something like accidently cut of her head while brushing her hair)

Glad to hear you say it .

As for GP - didnt he end up with "a medieval royalty" amount of kids ?

I think I recall there were 17 heirs apparent ,not counting unrecognized claims ?

Oh well,thats all in the past .There is trouble in most families.Not civil war with 3 different factions that hate eachother and try to kill eachother fielding armies with artillery and shock troops ,but then again every family has its own way of relating to eachother.

Cdnwolf 01-08-2010 04:09 AM

Damnit... that was suppose to be our secret...

But now its out in the open...

General Pain is my daddy!!

Targan 01-08-2010 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by JHart (Post 16326)
The caption says 1917-1918, but it is more like 1817-1818 as he has a flintlock rifle on his shoulder

Photography hadn't been invented in 1818. According to Wikipedia "Louis Daguerre took the first ever photo of a person in 1839 when, while taking a daguerreotype (early type of photograph) of a Paris street, a pedestrian stopped for a shoe shine, long enough to be captured by the long exposure (several minutes)".

Ironside 01-08-2010 07:39 AM

I have to say the gun looks more like a percussion lock than flintlock.

General Pain 01-11-2010 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Targan (Post 16343)
Photography hadn't been invented in 1818. According to Wikipedia "Louis Daguerre took the first ever photo of a person in 1839 when, while taking a daguerreotype (early type of photograph) of a Paris street, a pedestrian stopped for a shoe shine, long enough to be captured by the long exposure (several minutes)".

The Force is strong in this one......(google fu)

Cdnwolf 01-11-2010 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by General Pain (Post 16408)
The Force is strong in this one......(google fu)

(He means... someone needs a life.)

I was thinking that during the crisis of WWI when the Brewster Body Shield was developed... they used various weapons to test AGAINST the armor and maybe one of them was an old flintlock rifle.

headquarters 01-12-2010 03:13 AM

testing
 
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Originally Posted by Cdnwolf (Post 16411)
(He means... someone needs a life.)

I was thinking that during the crisis of WWI when the Brewster Body Shield was developed... they used various weapons to test AGAINST the armor and maybe one of them was an old flintlock rifle.

using a rifle with a variable powder amount like a muzzle loader might the way they did it to simulate various ranges,projectiles/shrapnel and so on .

The practice of selling armour with a dent in it from the testfiring of a musket on it was apparently common in old times.Maybe not in 1917 ...

a link to the modest armour section on our site

http://thebigbookofwar.50megs.com/DOX/Armor/

I should do some work on body armour from 1885 - 1940 soon - after smokeless powder was introduced but before modern ballistic materials were used widely . But alas life is what happens while you are planning other things .

The GrabenSchutz, Brewster armour ,Soviet Assault Engineer armour and the 1930s Japanese battle armour -and others -should all have their own docs I guess .

Targan 01-12-2010 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Cdnwolf (Post 16411)
(He means... someone needs a life.)

Gee thanks. Was I wrong?

Cpl. Kalkwarf 01-12-2010 04:56 AM

Its possibly a Springfield trapdoor conversion. Look just below the lock, see the lever. That might just be the lever that releases the trapdoor for loading.

StainlessSteelCynic 01-12-2010 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Cpl. Kalkwarf (Post 16419)
Its possibly a Springfield trapdoor conversion. Look just below the lock, see the lever. That might just be the lever that releases the trapdoor for loading.

I agree, from this site http://www.schiferli.net/Springfield%20Trapdoor.htm the last of the 'trapdoor Springfields' were made in 1893. That's only 24 years before the date in the picture.
I'd say that most of the bolt-action military rifles were likely to have been unavailable for a private company to use for research purposes and it's worth noting that apparently the last of the trapdoor rifles were chambered for .45-70 which would have had a decent amount of energy for testing purposes against the armour

General Pain 01-13-2010 01:53 AM

Kwon self defense
 
http://www.mykaratestore.com/store/i...se%20Armor.jpg

General Pain 01-13-2010 01:54 AM

one for the dog
 
http://www.lifeinthefastlane.ca/wp-c...rmor_dog_1.jpg

weswood 01-13-2010 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by General Pain (Post 16437)

That's a hell of a lot better than the guy I saw walking his Santa suit wearing dachsund.


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