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General Pain 01-12-2009 04:50 AM

OT - name that gass
 
anyone know the name of the gass used here?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow_...hostage_crisis

Canadian Army 01-12-2009 05:54 AM

According to the article; The Moscow Theatre Hostage Crisis: Incapacitants and Chemical Warfare; written by the Chemical and Biological Weapons Non-Proliferation Program.

"…Russian special police units resorted to using an incapacitating gas based on the drug fentanyl to end the crisis."

The full article can be found here: http://cns.miis.edu/stories/02110b.htm

General Pain 01-12-2009 06:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Canadian Army
According to the article; The Moscow Theatre Hostage Crisis: Incapacitants and Chemical Warfare; written by the Chemical and Biological Weapons Non-Proliferation Program.

"…Russian special police units resorted to using an incapacitating gas based on the drug fentanyl to end the crisis."

The full article can be found here: http://cns.miis.edu/stories/02110b.htm

I probably should have guessed it would be fentanyl-based - my dad works as a MD (anesthisia) and told me the strongest they had was remifentanil.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remifentanil

pmulcahy11b 01-12-2009 11:26 AM

(Moved to this thread by kato13. think it was posted to the East German Thread in error)

The US tried something similar in Vietnam in the form of grenades -- it was called BZ. It was quickly rejected because the results were too unpredictable.

Grimace 01-12-2009 01:49 PM

You'll probably never figure out exactly what it was, as the wiki article said that in July 2008 the Russians would release all information regarding the chemical in a closed session of the UN courts. So they don't want people to know what they used. Unless the UN spills it, you'll probably just get the best guesses of what people think it was.

pmulcahy11b 01-12-2009 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pmulcahy11b
(Moved to this thread by kato13. think it waas posted to the East German Thread in error)

The US tried something similar in Vietnam in the form of grenades -- it was called BZ. It was quickly rejected because the results were too unpredictable.

Oops! Thanks for catching it, Kato.

kato13 01-12-2009 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pmulcahy11b
Oops! Thanks for catching it, Kato.

Happens to me to, but I can move them with out anyone noticing (shhhhhhhhhhhhh ;) )

General Pain 01-13-2009 03:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pmulcahy11b
(Moved to this thread by kato13. think it was posted to the East German Thread in error)

The US tried something similar in Vietnam in the form of grenades -- it was called BZ. It was quickly rejected because the results were too unpredictable.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BZ_Gas

I read somewhere (on the net) that under US trials of BZ-gas people was under the influence for days after exposure

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M43_BZ_cluster_bomb
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M44_generator_cluster


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