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shrike6 05-22-2021 11:52 AM

Challenger 3
 
https://www.iiss.org/blogs/military-...icle-programme

Brit 05-23-2021 01:36 AM

Unsure about the camoflage scheme... :)

https://www.army.mod.uk/media/12447/...48570020000000

Raellus 05-23-2021 11:18 AM

Challenger 2 Mk. II
 
More like Challenger 2.5. It seems like the British military has adopted a very loose nomenclature system.

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Vespers War 05-23-2021 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raellus (Post 87950)
More like Challenger 2.5. It seems like the British military has adopted a very loose nomenclature system.

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It sounds like just about the only thing staying unchanged is the hull - it's getting a new engine, new optics, new turret, new suspension, and probably an active protection system. It's about as different as, say, the A27 Cromwell and the A34 Comet.

Raellus 05-23-2021 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vespers War (Post 87951)
It sounds like just about the only thing staying unchanged is the hull - it's getting a new engine, new optics, new turret, new suspension, and probably an active protection system. It's about as different as, say, the A27 Cromwell and the A34 Comet.

Fair point. It still seems like less different of a tank compared to something like the Leopard 2, vis-a-vis the Leopard 1.

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Ramjam 05-23-2021 06:19 PM

Well at last at least the British army will be be using the standard NATO tank round.

How many years has it taken? The 120mm was introduced in 1979.

I can just see the NATO logistics chiefs sighing in relief

CraigD6er 05-24-2021 12:24 AM

The Challenger 2 was actually vastly different internally to the Challenger 1, so no surprise if 3 differs from 2 as well. Whatever they do, it will still have the ability for the crew to have a brew without leaving the vehicle.

Brit 05-25-2021 04:25 AM

Sort of in a similar vein...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Ground_Combat_System

"According to Nexter's head of tracked and armor programs, Francois Groshany, the benefit of the tank is the combination of the "very high capability" Leopard 2 chassis with the lighter Leclerc turret".

So... Frankentank in 'the real world' ?

swaghauler 05-25-2021 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brit (Post 87947)
Unsure about the camoflage scheme... :)

https://www.army.mod.uk/media/12447/...48570020000000

WHAT!!?? You've NEVER heard of "Dazzle Camouflage?" :evilgrin2

Tegyrius 05-25-2021 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swaghauler (Post 87986)
WHAT!!?? You've NEVER heard of "Dazzle Camouflage?" :evilgrin2

Just needed an excuse to one-up the Berlin Brigade camo scheme?

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Ursus Maior 05-26-2021 05:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brit (Post 87981)
Sort of in a similar vein...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Ground_Combat_System

"According to Nexter's head of tracked and armor programs, Francois Groshany, the benefit of the tank is the combination of the "very high capability" Leopard 2 chassis with the lighter Leclerc turret".

So... Frankentank in 'the real world' ?

As far as I know, the finer details are still in the works. But a chassis derived from the Leopard 2A7 and a turret derived from the Leclerc, but with a 130 mm gun might be the general direction. Spain wants to swap their Leopard 2s for this new European Main Battle Tank design, and Poland as well as Italy have shown interest as well.

Let's say, this might become the next big thing on the tank-horizon (2040ish) or it will be one big and costly piece of vaporware.


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