[Brother in Arms]

Legbreaker wrote:
"....Machineguns are great, but they can't really effect anything behind cover"
that depends on what your cover is. An MG can turn cover into concealment pretty quickly. for example .30-06 M2 ball will penetrate 12" oak at 200 yards.


Kalo72 wrote:
"I personally love the idea that a expert shot with good bolt action rifle in conjunction with some automatic fire could subdue a larger, more powerfully armed force."

in this case it wasn't even automatic fire...but accurate semi-automatic fire supporting the sniper and then backed by grenadiers. This combined fire technique along with having a better position, they had us dead to rights. Not to mention they got jump on us. The ambush was opened by the sniper first man hit was the PKM gunner and they were very clever to eliminate him because I believe if we could have ever gotten the PKM into action, it could have actively suppressed them making it difficult for there riflemen to fire and nearly impossible for grenadiers to ready there rifle grenades. He could have even sucessfully lit up the sniper who was at a greater distance and there by broke up the whole combined effort.

at the end of the engadgment the score was: (KIA) 1-PKM gunner (WIA)4-rifleman. Two of which where caused by exploding rifle grenade shrapnel and 2 by rifle fire. One was wounded while trying to get the PKM into action and another while trying to hit the grenadiers. The two shrapnel injuries were minor..and one of the rifle wounds superficial. But the one who was hit trying to return fire with the PKM we left behind with the dead PKM gunner.

As for them, we know there sqaud leader took a good hit because they imediatly broke contact and disapeared, leaving an imense amount of blood and an M59 with bullet holes all through the stock. He probably died soon after the engadgement. But can't say for sure if we wounded any of the others.

after that we drew lots to see who would carry the PKM!


Kalos72 wrote:
"I always thought that a squad or perhaps even platoon having multiple machine guns/SAW's was more then the average unit would have up and running..."

I think if the ammo was there to support them they would be in use. But its less wasteful to arm more men with rifles less ammo than one man with a machinegun and a lot of ammo.

Depends on your doctrine but compare the Germans vs. US in ww2. and you can see a major difference. I think you would see increased trend in marksmanship because its only the ones that hit that count.

Brother in arms