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Originally Posted by waiting4something
War criminals? In who's eyes, the people that just got done fighting and getting shot at by them.
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Well yes, and me.
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The same people that dropped the Jews in the meat grinder with the Palestine's.
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I don't really understand what you mean here.
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Vietnam vets are called war criminals by some, but I don't that's true either.
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Well some were war criminals, that is a matter of public record, but a tiny minority. There are bad eggs in every basket. I know that some Commonwealth soldiers have done terrible things too at times.
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Originally Posted by waiting4something
What you had was a bunch of pissed off people that needed a someone to point a finger at like always, so you point at one group to focus your rage on.
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Actually in terms of WWII there are a number of groups we could point the finger at, not just the SS. But they are a good example of a group that was rotten to the core. Remember, "just following orders" isn't a valid defence and the version of history that most informed people accept is the one in which the SS were a really nasty organisation.
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Originally Posted by waiting4something
The Nazis used the same tactic with pointing out the Jews for being the heel.
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Umm, the Nazis demonised the Jews through rampant anti-semitism that had little or no basis in fact. I and others demonise the SS because, well, they did really bad things. I would venture that the two examples are very different.
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Originally Posted by waiting4something
The Waffen-SS is hard to defend because they have been played the bad guys over and over. I'll defend them, hell somebody has to.
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Well if you want to play the devil's advocate for the purposes of discussion, fair enough.
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And as far as Einsatzgruppen as I recall from WW2 history class in college, these people were not given that assignment, because they were top notch soldiers. They usually ended up in that outfit as a punishment or because they were seen as probelm children. So you got the bottom of the barrel doing bottom of the barrel jobs and everyone in the Waffen-SS is a criminal.
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Not everyone in the Waffen-SS was a criminal, but everyone in the Waffen-SS who was given an illegal order and followed it was (technically). I have no doubt that many of the forced conscripts serving in the Waffen-SS didn't want to be there but as I said earlier in this post "just following orders" isn't a valid defence. Just sayin'.