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Originally Posted by waiting4something
I think the whole Waco thing was bad info from the get go and they just kept rolling with it even though they knew they screwed the pooch. Who was this great informer and is there any proof Super Dave was banging all the women and girls there? I find it very hard to believe any man would just be like go ahead bang my daughter and wife neo-Jesus. The informer was a ex-member who got kicked out of the group on bad terms- a gunfight between DK.  The BATF might have even shot some of their guys. The Feds had the place bugged so well they knew where people where at all times. A second grader could have done as well when the end came. |
That's sort of thing has happened with cults and national leaders throughout history, and will happen over and over again, because mankind's dark side will never be eliminated. Look at the crap Caligula pulled -- he raped his senators' wives' in front of them, and then forced them to listen as he critiqued the wives' performance in public. Sometimes, you can do a lot with fear, intimidation, brainwashing, and/or indoctrination.
The remains of Koresh's weapons after the fire were collected up and destroyed. There wasn't much left -- the fire burned that hot. There were no M-2HBs as alleged, but there were a couple of Barretts.
As for the BATF's performance at Waco -- it was, as we said in the Army, f**ked up by the numbers. I'll agree with you on that one. I can only hope that whoever planned that initial raid got sent to jail. That's not even the kind of raid you perform in the daytime, and you definitely don't do it on live TV that Koresh's people were probably watching. I doubt the raid-masters got in any trouble, though.