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Old 05-19-2011, 10:57 PM
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And more so, what makes it outdated?
Implying what? Simply that we must not remain stuck 3 centuries before our time.

What makes it outdated?

1) It is 300 years old and doesn't fit our today's world anymore.

2) More importantly, it replaced god by science but retain the original mistake of most modern religion. It retains the separation between mankind and the planet it lives on. We still are not part of nature but above it with a continuing idea of domination.

3) We are currently seeing the limit of it as science no longer provides answers to our current problems. For my part, I think it still could but not as long as it works in opposition to the planet. Just take a recent exemple: Japan and Fukushima. We have seen the limit of our current approach and what is our answer: Change the building norms. What will be the result of it: Nothing can be built anymore. I'm living in the region of Draguignan which was hit by floods. What is our answer: the same. Why teaching people to live with the risk while we simply can forbid them to live?

Funny how the current sciences evolved in ways similar to the medieval religions. At first, it progressively freed man from restraining religious rules (many still surviving nonetheless). Nowadays, It imposes even more rules that are as restraining :
- ecology plays on guilt as did the priests with the made-up ideas of purgatory.
- construction : within a few years I won't be anymore able to sell my house (new regulations that are too demanding) while housing price becomes so important that many can no longer to even afford to have a house.
- limitation of freedom of speech and attempt to limit the free flow of information : Patriot act in US, Hadopi in France... (all with a good reasons but always with no clear limits)
- destruction of the freedom to make a descent living (and I'm not kidding): you can no longer grow the plants grown by your father and sell them. We are now licensing life itself. Just as an exemple: In India, cotton growing farmers are now forced to use GM cotton from Monsanto. They can't afford it and currently more than 1000 of them commit suicide every month. That makes more casualties than the official numbers for the US intervention in Iraq.
- pure stupidity: We are outraged by the BP rig off the coast of US but don't care for the destruction in Nigeria. France is promoting nuclear power and we are dumping our waste with no control in the middle of Siberia. We are fighting piracy off the coast of Somalia and allow industrial fishing within the limit of their national waters pushing people there toward piracy (just a detail, piracy is also growing in Asia, off the coast of Africa, in the Carribean, and in the Mediterraneans).

Therefore, I'm not saying that you must destroy the principles but it's more than time to review them. I'm fine with regulation but not when regulations destroy freedom.

This thread has been talking of terrorism. What amaze me today is how limited terrorism remains and this alone should bring a lot of hope.

Last edited by Mohoender; 05-19-2011 at 11:04 PM.
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