[natehale1971]

You know Fus, you just don't get WHY the Peath Penalty is used, how it is suppose to be used and what is accomplished with it.

You are lumping the US with counties who use the death penality will-nilly for a wide range of crimes from being homosexual to actual crimes. I eve wrote dow WHY the pentalty is used, and thefact it's not used as often as it should, and when it's used that it's used to get guilty people to agree to pleed guilty for lesser charges that will get them in jail for 25 to life so that they won't have to face the death penalty when they go before a court.

Are you really saying that no one deserrves to be executed for their crimes? Mass Murder, Genocide, Rape Camps and the like? All these are crimes against humanity. And like it or not, there are people in our world who are doing things just as horrible on a daily basis who needs to be punished. And sometimes their criminal acts are just so damn hanious that they deserve to be remmoved from God's Green Earth.

Comparing the US who only exectes fro TWO reasons to countries who have massively different ways to decide to go with executions...

Are you saying that in your T2k World that something like this happening, you'dd just slap them on their hands and let them go with a pat on their head and runalong?

My campaigns are pretty straight forward. When the PCs had access to sending EPOWS to the rear to the stockade and holding camps. at the Cantonments, it was as simple as that. But when they didn't have that ability, they more times more than not stripped them of everything they had of value, marked them and said taht if they were ever encountere again they'd be executed. The execution of EPOW was something that only happened if it was apsoluately necessary. and if they had been caught doing something horrendous (rape, child rape, murder and a few other nasty things)

Using your exmaples... these two countries have entrely different versions of what gets you capital punishiment, and it's NOTHING like what we have here.

In the People's Republic of China there are 55 criminal offences that are eligible for the death penalty. Many of these offences are non-violent and economic criminal offences. The following are just a few of them.

Crimes of Endangering Public Security

1. Committing arson, breaching a dike, causing explosion, spreading poison or inflicting serious injury or death on people or causes heavy losses of public or private property by other dangerous means.
2. Sabotaging any means of transport, transportation facility, electric power facility, gas facility, or inflammable or explosive equipment, thereby causing serious consequences
3. Any hijacker who causes serious injury to or death of any other person or serious damage to aircraft
4. Illegally manufacturing, trading, transporting, mailing or storing any guns, ammunition or explosives in serious circumstances.
5. Stealing or forcibly seizing any guns, ammunition or explosives in serious circumstances.
6. Robbery of any guns, ammunition or explosives or stealing or forcibly seizing any guns, ammunition or explosives from State organs, members of the armed forces, the police or the people's militia
7. Producing or selling fake medicines that cause death especially if serious harm is done to human health.
8. Whoever mixes the foods that he produces or sells with toxic or harmful non-food raw materials or knowingly sells such foods that cause death or especially serious harm.

Crimes of Smuggling

9. Smuggling drugs, weapons, ammunition, nuclear materials or counterfeit currency if circumstances are serious.

Crimes of Disrupting the Order of Financial Administration


11. Whoever counterfeits currencies and
a. being a ringleader of a gang engaged in counterfeiting currencies;
b. having counterfeited currencies in especially huge, amounts; or
c. being involved in other especially serious circumstances.

Crimes of Infringing Upon Citizens' Right of the Person and Democratic Rights.

17. Intentionally commits homicide
18. Intentionally inflicting injury upon another person AND if he/she causes death to the person or, by resorting to especially cruel means, causes severe injury to the person, reducing the person to utter disability
19. Raping a woman or has sexual intercourse with a girl under the age of 14 in any of the following circumstances:
(1) the circumstances being flagrant;
(2) raping a number of women or girls under the age of 14;
(3) raping a woman before the public in a public place;
(4) raping a woman with one or more persons in succession; or
(5) causing serious injury or death to the victim or any other serious consequences.
20. Unlawfully detaining another person or unlawfully deprives the personal freedom of another person by any other means AND if he causes injury, disability or death to the victim by violence.
21. Unlawfully detaining or confines another person in order to get payment of a debt does the same in (20)
22. Where a functionary of a State organ commits any of the crimes mentioned in (20).
23. Kidnapping another person for the purpose of extorting money or property or kidnaps another person as a hostage AND Whoever kidnaps another person for the purpose of extorting money or property or kidnaps another person as a hostage.
24. Abducting and trafficking in a woman or child AND if the circumstances are especially serious beyond the following:
(1) being a ringleader of a gang engaged in abducting and trafficking in women and children;
(2) abducting and trafficking in three or more women and/or children;
(3) raping the woman who is abducted and trafficked in;
(4) enticing or forcing the woman who is abducted and trafficked in to engage in prostitution, or selling such woman to any other person who would force her to engage in prostitution;
(5) kidnapping a woman or child by means of violence, coercion or anaesthesia for the purpose of selling the victim;
(6) stealing a baby or an infant for the purpose of selling the victim;
(7) causing serious injury or death to the woman or child who is abducted and trafficked in or to her or his relatives or any other serious consequences; or
(8) selling a woman or a child out of the territory of China.

Other


Illegally selling or transfers weapons or equipment of the armed forces AND if a large amount of weapons or equipment is sold or transferred or if there are other especially serious circumstances involved.
Any serviceman who, during wartime, cruelly injures innocent residents in an area of military operation or plunders their money or property AND if the circumstances are serious.


Capital punishment is legal and applied in Iran. Capital crimes are murder, rape, adultery, pedophilia, sodomy, drug trafficking, moharebeh (waging war on people or God) and mofsed-e-filarz (spreading corruption on earth). Various sources claim that up to 312 people were executed in Iran in 2010, the commonly accepted number being around 180. The overwhelming majority were drug traffickers, and virtually all executions are carried out for murder, aggravated rape, large scale drug trafficking, and armed robbery (cases usually resulting in rape/death).

Iran has garnered Western media attention and criticism for allegedly carrying out lethal punishments, like stoning, and executions of minors, despite having signed the Convention on the Rights of the Child, which forbids executing "child" offenders for crimes committed under the age of 18. However, Iran claims dispensation in cases where the Convention is deemed "incompatible with Islamic jurisprudence". An Iranian judiciary spokesman fiercely denied that it executes juvenile criminals or stones people to death, describing it as "propaganda against Iranian state" Iran is alleged to have the second highest execution rate in the world, second to China, although other countries like Iraq, Afghanistan, Nigeria and many more allegedly carry out secret executions.

Executions of women in Iran happen less often, and only account for a handful of executions every year. Only four women were executed in Iran in 2010.

Death sentences in Iran are in theory legal for eight different crimes: armed robbery, treason, murder, drug trafficking, rape, pedophilia, sodomy, kidnapping and terrorism.