Lemme put it this way again...
Innocent people in the United States have been, and will be, executed for crimes they didn't commit. From a morale stand point, I can't support such a system. It is unacceptable in my mind to utilize a system that kills innocent people.
That's my main counter argument why I think it is barbaric.
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You know Fus, you just don't get WHY the Peath Penalty is used, how it is suppose to be used and what is accomplished with it.
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I'd wager, neither do Americans since your homicide rates are through the roof despite your electric chairs and lethal injections.
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You are lumping the US with counties who use the death penality will-nilly for a wide range of crimes
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To show that even with the death penalty these willy-nilly crimes still occur. The death penalty neither prevented the crime from happening or stopped future crimes from happening.
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...it's used to get guilty people to agree to plead guilty for lesser charges that will get them in jail for 25 to life so that they won't have to face the death penalty when they go before a court.
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What about those who aren't guilty? How do they react to this coercion?
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And sometimes their criminal acts are just so damn hanious that they deserve to be remmoved from God's Green Earth.
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I never said they didn't need to be removed - from society.
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Comparing the US who only exectes fro TWO reasons to countries who have massively different ways to decide to go with executions...
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Your system is not perfect either. Hence, my earlier point of innocent people being executed for something they didn't commit.
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Are you saying that in your T2k World that something like this happening, you'd just slap them on their hands and let them go with a pat on their head and runalong?
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That is a strawman argument.
I never said anything about slapping people on the hands and letting them go. Unless you can site where I said criminals shouldn't be punished, you are deliberately misrepresenting me. For the matter, I believe in rehabilitation for criminals and separating those from society who are beyond rehabilitation. You know... how the country's with much lower homicide rates do it. It seems to be working for them after all.
In the fiction of Tw2000, there isn't the means to properly do this under the extraordinary situations so I don't think it applies to today. And it wouldn't make it right anyways - it would simply be an immoral requirement.