I have made a number of open and specific invitations to members of the T2013 forum to join us here and those invitations still stand. I guess if the T2013 forum is no longer functioning it will be a bit hard to re-post an invitation there. I enthusiastically welcome any T2013 forum members who choose to join this forum. We have successfully integrated T2013 discussions in this forum for a long time now. I'm all for inclusiveness