[natehale1971]

Yup.. i saw Swordfish a while back and was a little upset that someone had taken my idea and ran with it.

The men and women who are part of Stonycreek are all dedicated to the United States and it's constituion... The idea behind the creation of this group was to have a group that puts the welfare of the US and it's citizens ahead of their own asses. If you take the time to read the expose books tha have been coming out about the CIA you'll see that the biggest thing keeping the CIA and FBI from doing their jobs at the highest level of competency comes from the unelected and unaccountable burecrats who are more worried about covering their own asses.

Are these people violating the consitution? No, they aren't. They are all private citizens of this country and are putting their lives on the line, knowing that they will be put into positions that could see them having to ask themselves the question... "Is what I'm Doing Right or wrong?"

The Stonycreek Operations Group would have people who are both team players, and lone wolves... People who are willing to take chances and to live up to being responsible for those choices that they've made.

Stonycreek's hiding in plain sight approach has members of the operations group (the Outer Ciricle) who are located all throughout the bureacacy that has turned the Federal Government into a cluster you know what that has made it next to impossible for anything to get done. And in all honsety, most of what that bureacracy does now is not part of the Consitutional powers and authority that the Founding Fathers had envisionsed when they got together and wrote the founding documents of our Republic.

Now Stonycreeks PMC are not active duty US Armed Forces personnel and are not under the "posse comitatus"... and believe it or now, there are ways around it to get special warfare operators to work counter terrorism ops that will not voilate posse comitatus. To many times military personnel have been sworn in as federal law enforcement so they can do one of the jobs that the Federal Government was given... the defense of citizens of this country from foreign attack.

When Stonycreek has discovered something they can't deal with, they 'pass it along' to someone who can deal with it.

Such as... let's say something along the lines of the PLA's "Unrestricted Warfare" plans actually getting carried out, and there is a massive network of terror cells all acorss the country... and Stonycreek doesn't have the resources to go after all of them. Hell... the US federal law enforcement and armed forces wouldn't be able to coorinate the kind of round up operation that would be necessary to get them all at one time.

Stonycreek is more or less a group that are dedicated to do the right thing, no matter the cost to themselves. They go after threats to the country and it's citizens, while they aren't going to do the kind of things that you saw in "Swordfish" to fund their operations... they operate in the shadows shining the light of truth on the naughty things they've found.

Let's say Stonycreek discovers a network of so-called 'charities' that are funding the operations a terrorist network... they would gather evidence proving this, even if it means using a team of hackers to get that data illegally. Now they're not going to turn all that over to the legal system... No, they turn it over to the Media. That way everyone can see the things they've found, and the citizens can demand that the badguys get punished.

Now let's say that Stonycreek has uncovered not only the funding of a terrorist network, but they discover that the terror network is about to unleash unholy hell... They would then take direct action by eliminating the cell that is about to kill innocents. But they would do it in such a way that it looks as if someone else took them out.

Such as a coordinated assault on a major international airport... Stonycreek would use the Out Ciricle or some other kind of contact to tell TSA that the attack is coming. That there are confidential informants and unercover agents who are either in the cell, or working against the cell. After the TSA has taken the credit for stopping the attack, the Stonycreek operators who helped show what was coming, are able to fade away.

My problem is the fact that i don't know how an operations group would be set up... it's why i had thought of Stonycreek piggybacking on exitsting organizations. Using those existing organizations to provide a cover for their operations, and a plausable deniablity.

Stonycreek would be a group that deals with threats to the US Consitution and the American people, both foreign and domestic. They put that above everything else they are doing. If they discover something happening within the organizations they are piggybacking on, they would reveal it to the media... "Operation Fast and Furious" has been in the media alot. That would be something that Stonycreek would definately see as a threat to the US and it's people, and would take what ever means needed to stop it.

I like the idea of Stonycreek having members of the Outer Circle as part of the various internal affairs offices of the agencies they've inflitrated.

That would work amazingly well for them to provide cover for Stonycreek, and allow them to 'pass along' sensitive information to people in positions of power that can deal with problems that are just too big for Stonycreek to deal with.