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Originally Posted by Legbreaker
It's scattered all around the place. You've got information saying specifically the offensive was by the German III Army, then there's also references in the Nato vehicle guide of British units (which were outside the III Army) being involved in the offensive.
Looking through everything, the only areas that don't have references are the south of Germany and up in the Nordic countries. Some references are just a line of text, but there is enough to form an overall picture of a general offensive.
It also needs to be remembered that the materials are written specifically as background for a small group of predominately US survivors of the destruction of the 5th ID. What's happening outside the immediate area is of little real importance to the game play and so has received minimal attention by the developers. We can see a great amount of detail has gone into the Kalisz area right down to individual unit commanders being named, while entire Divisions a few hundred kilometres away receive little more than manpower and tank numbers with (if we're lucky) perhaps 2-3 lines of background text. Fortunately for us, those 2-3 lines often hold vital clues to the overall picture - they mean nearly nothing when viewed in isolation, but when gathered together and viewed as a whole....
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You've made some pretty liberal interpretations of canon to support your POV. I've just had a look and I don't see ANY references in the
NATO Vehicle Guide (c. 1989) to UK units being involved in any offensive operations in the summer of 2000. Not a single one. In fact, the only units explicitly stated to have taken part in offensive operations in Poland in the summer of 2000 are those belonging to Third German Army (aside from U.S. XI Corps, that's just III German Corps, consisting of four divisions).
Haven't you slammed other folks here for presenting their own interpretation of events/OOBs and such as "canon"? Seems like that's what you are doing here. Your assumption that other NATO units (besides those of Third German Army) participated in a general NATO offensive in the summer of 2000 is just that- an assumption, and one that appears to be unsupported by published canon. If you'd care to actually cite these references you keep alluding to, I'll be happy to retract this.
The beauty of T2K, though, is that in your T2KU, the III German Army summer offensive in the summer of 2000 can be part of a general NATO offensive across all of Poland, and one of its objectives can be the Lithuanian oil shale beds.
In my T2KU, the III German Army summer offensive is an operational spoiling attack against Soviet/WTO units in north and north-central Poland with the strategic aim of preparing the way, both militarily, diplomatically (w/ its allies), and politically (vis-a-vis MilGov vs. CivGov), for a planned withdrawal of American forces from Poland early the next year. I've ammended my interpretation to include that this withdrawal plan was accelerated due to XI Corp's defeat in June of 2000.
Just don't claim that your T2KU is any more canonical than mine. ; )