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Old 03-14-2012, 04:57 AM
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It does'nt matter, if the person in A'stan was committing (mass) murder, a war crime, or if he was running amok. He killed 16 civilians. I can really see no excuse for it.
If the person was suffering from some kind of stress syndrom or a mental illness, this still does not excuse the deed. Maybe such a fact will effect his punishment, but still ... this will not bring back the dead.

From my personal point of view it does not matter, that he is American. This kind of crime would have been just as horrible, if it had been done by an Australian, a Brit, a Finn, or a German.


But what is (more than) a little irritating for me is: Why are we discussing Anti-Americanism here, again? (By the way, ArmySgt: Where are the non-British-speaking Europeans in your list?)

Maybe Raellus is right: It might be a good thing to close these kind of O/T threads. War crimes, "Stupid U.S. Marines" and U.S. military singles with children are discussed controversial and do not, necessarily, have a benefit to the game Twilight 2000! Raellus legitimately talked about the chance, to chase "current and potential members".

On the other hand: Legbreaker sums up the situation very well, when he says, the things happening in real life are just a small taste of what's likely in the T2k universe! And he's absolutely on spot here!

Maybe 95thRifleman's approach is something to be considered: An own section for "potentialy flammable threads". This could be a section, where not all members automatically have access. One would have to be invited, or ask for "entrance". But this is time costly. And I have nor clue, how difficult this is, from the technical side. It would certainly mean more work for at least one of the mods. So: A better way seems to be avoiding getting to personal.

Normally I do not participate on threads like this. Why? I'm German. Whenever you talk about such things, you're dancing on thin ice, if you're German. Some "wise guy" usually mentiones the war crimes of the Nazis, and that's the end to a lot of discussions.

We should be able, to debate certain problems/issues/individual cases without bashing everyone, who's opinion differs.

I joined the board, to discuss T2k. If O/T threads help, I'm looking forward to them. But, please, let's keep it friendly and objective! And avoid the obviously "flammable" issues. This is the T2k forum, not the "Whereabouts of the U.S. armed forces" board!
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