Olefin and Targan, I suggest you both calm down - I'm not a mod here nor do I try to claim to be one, but really - I think there's room for the both of you here without the need to bicker.
Yes, Olefin has different ideas than those of the GDW and many participants here, but since others have been allowed to post their alternate timelines here, I don't see anything wrong with this thread.
Then again, Targan is well within his rights to express his opinion and it should be taken as such. Disagreeing with something or someone isn't exactly rude and I'd rather not see this turn in to a flamewar and arguing about who has the bigger virtual you-know-what.
If you ask me, The original idea was that the world as we know it ceases to exist. Nations no longer mean that much, especially with the U.S. divIded between the CivGov and MilGov. There for, I sincerily doubt, there'd be any carriers floating, since all it takes to sink one is a nuclear tipped torpedo and with the knowledge I have about the Soviet-built submarines, the Kilo-class for an example is something that can deliver just that being so quiet, it can nearly hump a whale and get away with it without the whale even noticing. But this is not saying, you can not run your own version of the story nor discuss about it in here, Olefin - on the contrary. You just have to accept the fact, not all of us are always going to agree with you on all your ideas. No-one agrees with all my ideas either, but it is their perogative.
Thank you and sorry for any hurt feelings or inconvenience.
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