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Old 05-11-2012, 10:10 AM
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As to the 49th Division

Supposedly by April 1, 2001 it had been broken up into various company and battalion size units.

However in Ozarks written for an early March 2001 start it refers specifically to the command center of th 49th Armored Division in Oklahoma and being briefed there by Major Walker of the DIA. By April 2001 it was supposedly seperate battlegroups dispersed throughout OK.

The description in Ozarks and the one in HW dont describe the same unit. The one in Ozarks has a command center that obviously is very much in communication with higher commands and is functional as a division, not as a bunch of spread out smaller units.

Then there is the description of MilGov for the south central states - i.e the recent campaign against New America in the Ozarks that could not have even started yet by April 1, 2001. So how does he resent what hasnt happened yet?

Both Missouri and Arkansas descriptions show they are destroying the last of the New Americans by April 1, 2001 but the campaign couldnt have even started by that date.

And the biggest whopper of them all - page 41 of HW states that MilGov was unable to conduct an offensive into Texas in 1999. That directly contradicts multiple canon descriptions in Red Star, Lone Star, US Vehicle Guide and the boxed set that say directly that there was an offensive in Texas by the US.

And what is has to say about the state of Texas does not match what is in Red Star Lone Star - nothing about Soviets, Americans and Mexicans living together and fighting off marauders is ever mentioned at all. The only mention of the Soviets is one where they are basically not wanted by the Americans at all and the Mexicans barely.

Plus where is the oil of Gulf Forty and the effect of all that refined oil suddenly being available? It would have occured right about the Feb March timeframe, especially since the characters to get to OK would have had to cross all of Texas to do it, so that makes the battle at Gulf Forty, at the latest, in late January of 2001.

again the April 1 timeline and events mentioned for it contradict or dont match earlier established canon.

Now for the 197th

The 197th has the same number of men in April 2001 as it does in the US Vehicle Guide

what happened to the 57 men they lost in the Ozarks to New America in Feb of 2001? Two whole platoons wiped out - but not a reference at all in HW.

So how is that explained - by having the 85th merge with them in March 2001 after the supposed huge losses they took against New America in march of 2001

Again an event that could not have happened by April 1 of 2001

So now you have four divisons affected supposedly by April 1, 2001 by an event that could not have occurred till June at the earliest (i.e. the mopping up of the final remnants of New America after the characters completed the module that didnt even start till early March at the earliest and possibly even late March)
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